Digital music questions


I'm somewhat new to hi res digital audio and I'm looking for some tips. I have been building my system and have purchased McIntosh c2700, which has a DAC built in, a 462 amp, and B&W 802d4s. Using Apple Music, I have been streaming music through a Macbook Pro via a USB cable to the DAC of the c2700 preamp.

The McIntosh preamp states the streaming quality is 44.1 kHz, which seem to be the low end of high-res streaming. I currently have so many subscriptions, including Sirius XM for the cars and Apple Music for my family, and more recently Nugs for concerts, (not to mention video subscriptions...seems it never ends), so I was hoping not to add another paid subscription.

That being said, am I leaving a lot on the table? Would a dedicated streamer sound a lot better than the Macbook Pro? Are there streamers without DACs, so I can use the McIntosh DAC without purchasing redundant equipment? I understand I cannot use Apple Music to get high res audio to the preamp, as they only provide it through Apple equipment at this time. Can I get a streamer that uses the DAC of the c2700 preamp? Finally, do I then need to add another subscription, such as Tidal or Qobuz, to get high res audio? 

Thanks....it's a lot of questions, but I'm sure someone here can help!

cmb13

KISS

Usung the search tool (yellow magnifying glass) you can find lot’s of info on this sight. There’s scads of info of what you’re hankering after.

New or used Bluesound’s are a good way to start and easy to sell when you are smitten and ready to step it up.

As for it’s all ones and zeros to me that’s like saying speakers are speakers and lamp cord is good wire. You will find the vast majority here shy away from computer streaming. Read into that what you will. 

Now onto streamers, yes I’m saying that an inexpensive streamer can sound just as good as an expensive streamer if the DAC receives the same data. Bits truly are bits - and that’s the beauty of digital data. We can make and store and stream as many copies of music files as we want and as long as those copies match the original bit for bit, they will always sound identical.

Ok, I’ve already said my piece on this and I’m done as it’s clear the cement has hardened on this one.  If anyone else here takes issue with this please feel free to chime in because this is just absolute ignorant silly talk.  A cheap streamer can sound just as good as the better and more expensive streamers out there?  You gotta be kidding me man.  There are so many people here who’ve had revelations in their streaming setup by upgrading to a better streamer it’s not even a question anymore except in your mind.  A quote from Pink Floyd’s The Wall once again seems appropriate…

”And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall”

Peace out.

 

@soix +1

 

@yage -1 All the words and logic you can muster about bits will not change the fact that vastly different sound quality comes from the same bits run through different components doing the same thing. 

 

cmb13,

I am an engineer, but I still let my ears (and my budget) dictate my purchases. I am not a "bits is bits", or cable disbeliever, or power disbeliever; and that has only come by hearing the differences with my ears in my system. I'm also not going to disagree with those that have differing opinions, we've all got to make our own minds up on what does, and does not matter.

Most any dedicated streamer has outperformed my old computer based streaming. My current system of a Bluesound Node 130, LHY linear power supply, along with good high quality cables provides an excellent streamer set up with an excellent interface for a combined $950.

You might buy a Node X (latest model) $750 or an Eversolo DMP-A6 $899 and try for yourself. If they better your current streaming set up, then keep them.....if not then you can return them for a restocking fee.

But most are correct, better streamers (also more costly) form Aurender, Innuous, Lumin, etc do provide better SQ.....I've tested Aurender and Lumin products in my system and they were much better than my current set up, and I'm saving for it's replacement

@yage

I consider your opinion and the opinions of most others on this website, whether or not I am in agreement with them, as being important. I agree with others that you should purchase and will enjoy having an entry level streamer such as a Bluesound, which I happen to own one and thoroughly enjoy, to dip your toes in the streamer waters. Although I don’t have their names on the tip of my tongue, there are members here with rather expensive systems who use and enjoy it.

Unfortunately, emotional outbursts by one member here are getting to be the norm and do not represent the main of this website.