Have There Ever Been Fake Koetsu?


There are as few trusted grey market sellers like 2Juki. I have always wondered why he can sell a Koetsu at about 1/3 of what the US importer lists it at. Yes I understand the markup is pretty high for the US side, and that certainly accounts for all of it. 

This question is not about 2Juki, but rather a second hand Koetsu. There happens to be an attractively priced Jade Platinum on this site, and its from a long time member. It has caught my eye. 

 

But I do wonder if there are Koetsu out there floating around in the 2nd hand market that are not real...fakes. 

Any thoughts or experiences?

neonknight

FWIW, the stone bodied Koetsus work well with the Kuzma Airline- it doesn’t have high vertical mass, but the horizontal mass is considerable (this, notwithstanding Franc’s claim that the air bearing is frictionless and makes that irrelevant for most purposes). I have a Jade and Tiger Eye, both new from factory. The Jade is very good; there is some criticism that it makes everything some the same- i.e., a coloration. The Tiger Eye, which took time to break in, has more high freq information, and I’ve been running that for a while.

These are special cartridges- normally a high mass arm of the old type is required. But the combo of air bearing linear tracker + Koetsu works magic in my system; it isn’t just midrange purity-- I’ve had Van den Hul, Lyras top offerings and Airtights- none had the bass dimension and tone of the Koetsu along with that magical midrange.

I know the initial post was about Koetsu forgeries, but the discussion went sideways into 3rd party retipping.

I had been using Van den Hul for a couple decades. With COVID19, I decided I didn’t want to chance sending the cartridge across the pond and so I tried someone local, Steve Leung of VAS. I plan on writing a review of moderate length of the work he has done for me on my Rosewood Signature and Onyx, after my new room is complete (taking forever: I’m slowed down from bypass heart surgery) and I have had time to fully break in the Onyx, but for now suffice to say that Ana Mighty and Expert - to say nothing of insanely expensive Koetsu itself - are not the only options. Steve says that he refurbishes to Koetsu specs.

I’ll never sell these cartridges so I am not worried about resale, I’m just concerned about performance.