@mahgister i am. Not doing anything behind your back at all. Look I respect your opinion. I just strongly disagree with it. I understand how you strongly feel. I’m not mad at you and I’m not offended by you disagreeing with me. I strongly disagree with your position but please don’t take it personal. I respect how professionally you have responded. But I disagree with you. Don’t think I hate you as a person or that I’m sneak dissing you behind your back. It’s Audiogon you will see what I post. Look we have debated this topic on and on. You have wrote long answers and explained your position. Yes the room can help you some. But not as much as you probably think in my eyes. I respect your ideas and arguments in your position. But I’m not talking behind your back. It’s Audiogon. You will see my response like you are seeing it now. Just don’t take it that personal. You are a smart thoughtful guy. Continue to engage on this thread or any others. But the more you respond the stronger I feel about my own position. Based on those responses. It’s ok to disagree and still be ok with each other. Always feel free to respond on my threads.
High End System Building. How important is the matching, cabling and room? Thoughts ?
The last 20 years as an audiophile and now a dealer has taught me a very important lesson. Everything matters. The equipment can be great but no matter how much you spend the matching is very important. The cabling is also important. Some think cabling is all about making it sound better. I prefer my cabling to not get in the way. It’s like it can’t be a clogged faucet for your sound. Materials and shielding are very important. In addition to that the room is very important. You may not have a perfect room but you build your system to work in the room you have. I don’t have all the answers but you can’t just spend money and have a great system. Combination of equipment, cabling and room has gotten me there. I’ve tried a lot of gear and cables and this is how I feel. What are your thoughts everyone?
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@mahgister you are talking to someone who works in audio where I used to be just an hobbyist. I know the work, build quality, research and design elements that go into products and why at this point. It should not surprise you that based on that that I would disagree with you about how much the room affects the sound. It affects it some but it’s not gonna make average equipment compete with the best of the best. Sorry that’s as direct as I can be. |
I am tired by your misreading but i thank you for your invitation to post... You seems a very good person to me then ... I want that to be clear... Now i will clarify something you MISREAD about my experience... No room acoustic will correct a bad design or compensate for it or replace gear choices... IS IT CLEAR? ... But on the other hand No high end speakers and system can perform at their PEAK POTENTIAL in a bad room ... Is it clear ? And any low cost system will improve a lot with room acoustic controls BUT WILL NOT EXCEED THE POTENTIAL OF A HIGH END SYSTEM for sure ... Is it clear ? Now we can have a low cost systen that give a relatively good " audiophile" experience if we work with not only acoustic but with electrical noise floor control and vibration/resonancve control... I call it the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold ... Is it clear ? Then in no way a low cost system giving a minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold because of acoustic and electrical and mechanical control well done, in no way such system will rival some very high end system... The only exception may be high end system in bad room ... is it clear ?
In a word claiming as you do that high end system exist and are better than low cost one , is a common place fact known by everyone even me ... What i said dont contradict that... But you dont seems to understand what i said ... Psychoacoustics rule the gear not the price tag...
I thank you even if we differ because you are a gentleman ... My deepest respect ...
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@mahgister thanks for the clarification. Respect my friend. |
The room matters a lot, do everything you can afford. a. You NEED it. How do I know? Because you are BOTHERED and can NAME the ISSUE you wish to SOLVE b. You have done an A/B in your space and you PREFER the new thing, FOR SURE.
From here it’s never ending. Hopefully you will go many years with a set up, but you may not. When you have amazing Speakers, Amps, Cables, DA etc ... then you might in time be bothered and fine tune it with AC cables perhaps, Fuses perhaps, Caps and Resistors perhaps. The better the system the more obvious is any small change. Small gains are often costly ... that’s the reality. Do you need them? See #1
A great thing can be costly or not. A bad thing can be costly too.
Enjoy the Process. For the Audiophile the system is the creativity, the instrument. |
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