10 Levels of Turntable Mastery


Maybe this will be an intersting thread. Maybe it will be quickly forgotten. Either way, I'd throw it out there for discussion and debate.

Could we, as a collective, define 10 Levels of Turntable Mastery? 1 being a complete novice, 10 being the master turntable guru. Perhaps we even start at 0.

TML 0 - Digital Only
TML 1 - If you own and use a turntable, you qualify for TML 1.
TML 2 - ?
TML 3 - ?
etc.

I figured I'd fall into the 4 to 5 range. I understand the geometry enough to create my own protractors. I can use these protractors to set up tables with variable P-to-S distances. I can arrive at an acceptable starting point for anti-skate. I can set an initial VTA and VTF, but I'm not attune to the minor changes in these values (given my cartridge and associated equipment). I have no idea how to use an oscilloscope to validate and verify an accurate setup.

This isn't about who can buy the most expensive toys. A Walker owner may be a TML 1 while there may be Technics SL-1200 owners that may come in at a TML 8 or 9.

I think this would interesting to define these levels not only to benchmark where one is at as a Turntable Master, but what are the next things to master along the analog journey.

Who want's to take a crack at it? If this thread goes anywhere, I'll periodically summarize the posts into the current TMLs to help foster discussion and debate.
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Ok according to the list just made by Bob I would be a TLM 2.5. I own a VPI scout with a Lyra Dorian, for me that is not a setup and forget TT. But I really dont know how to do that. I know people that do know. Also I am thinking "If I safe enough money I maybe can by a array PH-2 or a Bluenote/Goldenote Pamphilli.

I also had my eye on a SDS 2nd hand, but not sure if that would be any good for a standard scout.
I like Atmasphere's 12/16 post's listing of TLMs 10, 9 and 8.
IMHO, a TLM 7 would be someone who can set-up less difficult tables and who can hear when things are "right". Probably, can set azimuth and VTA by ear.
I'm about a 7, I guess.
Below that, I don't know. I've, always, paid scant attention to the lower classes. . .
TML 10: Tibetan monk hearing the music in his head as he spins the palimpsest.--Mrmitch
I have telekinetic powers and can make my table spin at a constant speed better than the best DD turntables, although sometimes I get distracted and all hell breaks lose!
Thanks to all who have added to this disucssion (and, I guess, thanks to those who typed enough to see their name posted within this thread). Here’s some of my thoughts - they are a bit loose, but hopefully it will add to the discussion.

TML 0: Digital Only. Refuses to acknowledge the potential of the classic medium.

TML 1: I think the lowest TML level is about 1) willingness to embrace the medium and 2) sees the turntable as an appliance. It either works or it doesn’t. My father would be a TML 1. He has over 3000 records, but gets his tables at garage sales, figures if they spin and sounds comes out, they’re good-to-go.

TML 2: The next TML will experiment with cleaning records. Wet cleaning seems radical, but after they try it, the see the light. These users see that clean records (without defects) can play without clicks and pops, and start to see the potential in vinyl LPs. This epiphany is what it takes to move up to a TML 3.

TML 3 starts to experiment with VTF (as this is one of the few parameters that can be easily tweaked on their set-it-and-forget-it tables. You break your first cantilever as a TML 3, which forces you to buy either a replaceable stylus or a new cartridge. You attempt to set up your new cartridge, think you’ve done it right, but not sure. A TML 3 starts to seek out information on the geometry of tonearm / cartridge setup. This thirst for knowledge moves you up to a TML 4.

A TML 4 is very proficient at using readily available protractors. You’ll start with simple paper protractors. Then try some lower priced, commercially available protractors. Then you’ll wonder if you should purchase a high-priced commercially available protractor. Then you think about it more. And you decide to do something about it. You’ve graduated to TML 5.

TML 5: Perhaps you take the time to understand the underlying geometry (but not the mathematics) of setup and you create your own protractors. Perhaps you purchase a higly precise commercially available protractor. Either way, you are very competent in setting Pivot to Spindle distance, effective length / overhang, offset angle. You can also verify / set the rotational velocity of the platter. You feel fairly confident about the azimuth. If you haven’t sold your set-it-and-forget-it tables yet, you’re about to do so. Your friends think you know your stuff to help them set up their set-it-and-forget-it tables (as they don’t see the value in spending good money on setup). Congrats…you’re ready to start to work on TML 6.

A TML 6 starts to focus on more esoteric tweaks, such as fine VTA / VTF adjustments (but maybe not for every record). A TML 6 considers stylus geometry and cantilever materials as much as a TML 3 thinks about MM vs. MC.

A TML 7 can prove setup accuracy using a voltmeter and / or oscilloscope. Probably thinks they can build a table better that what is commercially available at a given price point. However, if you cannot teach someone to become a TML 7 (you need to have 3 references), you do not progress to TML 8.

Now I hand it back over to Atmasphere…

TML 8: this is the level most aspiring audiophiles will rise to- able to create the best performance from any turntable placed in front of him, has a good idea of what machines produce state of the art performance, can set up proper cartridge loading, complete arm setup regardless of model- proper attention to VTA, nuance in tracking weight, effective mass, etc.

TML 9: In business as an acknowledged leader in the field, one whose product is beyond reproach.

TML 10: Master: built their own turntable and arm and it kicks ass on everything commercially available. This is not by the individual's claim; the knowledge of this is gained only by word of mouth. Anyone who says he is, isn't; turn around and run as hard as you can.