Sadly we may never know. Kii Audio applied for certification but in a surprise development the Kenjit Society seems to have gone out of business.
Are these Speakers the BEST on Planet Earth ?...
Are the new Kii Audio Three BXT Pro Speakers the best money can buy ?
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https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/kii-audio-three-bxt
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https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/kii-audio-three-bxt
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No; use of eight 7" drivers, fail for contender as best on Earth. Not even close, and I don’t have to hear them to know that. Why? Because eight 7" drivers will not begin to produce the kind of LF that superior SOTA speakers can produce. I'm not only meaning frequency extension, but also quality, texture of the bass. These fall short of the goal on that parameter alone. Whether they are all that as regards mid/treble would have to be heard. |
I have never heard them but having read a bunch of reviews especially from people who lean my way politically, they are worthy of ordering and defending In a most vociferous Manner. I may have pre confirmation bias....Or just an inflated ego... maybe both... can I get them in Mexico Blue ? serious, who knows..... best ???? |
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I'd take these any day over the Kii: https://dutchdutch.com/8c/ |
When everyone’s ear are literally different and literally unique in that physicality, and when everyone learns through that unique physicality in a unique individual path, and this unique pairing becomes their interpretation of the physical reality of hearing....then... ...no, there is no such thing as an ultimate piece of audio equipment nor an ultimate speaker. That we each see an orange uniquely and the only commonality is that we share a language that is transferable, as a descriptor of the given thing. Where we each see ’orange’, but the total sum interpretation of that commonality of the ’orange’ word, is unique and individual. Seven billion separate individual unique interpretations that suffer commonality, but not exactness. You exist solely as a subjective thing, in a subjective reality, in it’s entirely, inescapably so. Where objectivity is a shared concept but has zero reality, outside of it’s entirely subjective vehicle/carrier. So, we can have ’perfect sound’, but there is no one there to listen to it, and it is inescapably subjective. Objectivity is an impossibility in a human world, in a reality that cannot be proven in any way, but that of supposition. Ergo, ergo, ergo... Illogical or uneducated minds tend to think otherwise. That somehow objectivity is a ’thing’. It is not. Objectivity is grade school stuff, rote methodology, dogmatic stuff for repetitious taskmastering.. Where if you scratch a high level scientist and or physicist in this direction, they will tell you the same. We communicate about our so called objectivity, but objectivity is merely a thought object, a tool... for the purposes of analysis. Your reality, as you know it, is inescapably virtual. You have no other purchase or grip on it, that that. Anything else is a figment of your non-existent imagination. Logic, in the final levels, demands and illustrates this. Ie, just a simple description of gravity in 5 levels, and the peak level, the 5th one, goes inescapably into metaphysics, and is a talk a between two physicists, who reveal that ultimately ...we can’t prove anything, anything at all. So, to come back ’round again... No. No best speaker. Best speaker for me. Best speaker for you. Whatever that given speaker individually might be. But it can’t really go any further than that subjective act. The human ear being as stated at the start of this post. With a few bits of logic strung together, it can be seen why the objective linear mind goes batty when it encounters high end audio, as high end audio really brings the subjectivity of it all home to roost, due to the uniqueness of individual human hearing. And the objective mind freaks out, and attacks in all directions...like an animal being held high in the air by one foot, in a violent, turbulent and unbounded reality... completely undone -- out of place and outside of peace of mind. |
If my Mission Cyrus 781 can changes TOTALLY from ordinary to extraordinary when they are mechanically and electrically and most importantly acoustically rightfully embedded; then any speakers will sound very differently, rightly embedded or not.... Then how can we know if one among hundreds possible contenders is the better? Price can only be a factor in the matter not the last word....Price are non linearly related to the sophistication of the design and his quality....We cannot compared 1000 bucks speakers most of the times to 100,000 dollars one and most of the times even not to 20,000 one... It is certainly not possible to affirm anything without comparing them in the same rightful embeddings conditions and this is very difficult to makes that happen for more than a few speakers at the same times for the same ears.... Then this speculation is more about marketing products and prices then S.Q in itself.... Acoustics delivers 55% of S.Q., and controls of the electrical grid of the house 25 or 30 % and mechanical controlling of resonance problems contributes in my experience around 20 or 15%, these % are valid in the hypothesis that all source are good and relatively equals for any audio systems experiments and that the speakers compared are on the same rungs levels in price/ design quality....These % are only my own experience for sure but meet many others experience also …. Speakers dont exist in a void or in an anechoic chamber.... They exist in a very particular house and the Room +speakers + ears is the most important factor in audio and works like a single synchronizing apparatus.... |
I dont judge the Mission speakers" per se".... I only think about the changes induced by room modification, and other modifications (mechanical and electrical) and their final impact on the sound quality...This is my point....Not the quality of a speaker in "abstracto" based on his good design and price.... If we takes any speakers and listen to it in a bad room and after that in an optimally controlled one, the difference is always most of the times staggering....My Mission dont sound the same at all in my controlled room now compared to the same room without any embeddings acoustical tweaks and without any of the electrical controls tweaks, like 3 years ago when I bought them... Congratulations for your Mission Speakers....Mission produce some speakers very good for their pricing at times....It seems that we are at least 2 thinking the same.... :) My Tannoy dual gold were perhaps better tough but it was impossible to put them on my desk.... :) |
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Ultimate Spinach? Far out man. Had to look them up, the "Bosstown Sound"? Were those your formative years? Kii Audio put on an interesting digital source demonstration at an audio show last year (no subwoofer yet). The advancements and and results that digital signal processing can provide is interesting. In that hotel room some remarked positively about the amount of bass they produced. My next listen was in the Zesto / Joseph Audio room and was immediately reminded of digititus. Because eight 7" drivers will not begin to produce the kind of LF that superior SOTA speakers can produce. I'm not only meaning frequency extension, but also quality, texture of the bass. These fall short of the goal on that parameter alone. Whether they are all that as regards mid/treble would have to be heard.No SOTA experience but I sold a 16lbs Phil Jones C2 2x5" that made my Upright sound great. I'm now using a back packable Upshot with a 10" Bag End Coaxial at just over 12lbs. My Velodyne DD-12 Plus killed the previous DD-18. Just sayin'. |
lol @teoaudio’s post above me. You’re essentially making an argument against science. I take it you dropped out of school. I see this time and time again with failed engineers. Couldn’t tough it out with a real job and instead went the route of high end cables.In the video where an astrophysicist tries to explain gravity at 5 levels of education and mind.., which was lost in the original post, somehow..it goes like this: Gravity explained in 5 levels of increasing complexity and depth 1: Dogma and facts 2: Dogma and facts 3: Dogma and facts 4: Dogma and facts and level 5, spoken between a physicist and an astrophysicist: We don’t really understand anything, this could be anything, there is no reality, there are no facts and all of this is up in the air, and may well be, forever. We really don’t know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ so, when I hear people spout about facts, attack with ’facts’ (the word fact is an oxymoron) when someone else is speculating about things science is not clear on, then the smoke comes out of my ears. as, when you speculate (which is emphatically NOT engineering), one reverts the facts and the dogma to what they really are, which is suppositional place holding logic based on analysis and observation. As in the end, it’s all we’ve got, if one is actually asking questions and attempting to answer them. Like the astrophysicist and the physicist both illustrate very very clearly. I see you still play the game of attacking over a wrong that never happened and was entirely your imagination... Please don't conflate science with engineering, they are not the same. They are related at at times and can intertwine to some degree but there is a very important difference between the two. You build with engineering, you speculate with science. Engineering has facts, physics and science has theories. And never will the two meet. People conflate the two as they don't understand the subtle but critical differences. |
