Front Row Seat Power Cord?


I’m looking for a quality power cord that tends to create a perspective that is more “front row” than “mid-hall”, without being thin or overly bright.  I’ve been looking at reviews, and the two that seem to pop up in this regard are the DH Labs Red Wave, and the Purist Audio Jade. Any other ideas?

 

 

 

laginz
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Bybee Inspired Enhanced Quantum Purification Core Technology…What the mouth full of Bionic regurgitated crap is that ? I’m out as well !!

@thecarpathian ....Right behind you, so hit the flashers if you slow or pause...

When I read 

  • "Bybee Inspired Enhanced Quantum Purification Core Technology..."

....first knee kicked 'Alien tech....Again!?'

...second, '...inhaling the fumes in the shipping container...'

Found the entry fee, woooweee......If I hold off, wait, and do some 'spring disinfection' wiping, I could replace most of the IC's esp. ones' older than most of your children.....no, not the grandkids.....unless you were early or stuck.... ;)

Buy a different 'beater' tweak the motor, drivetrain, tires to survive the combat traffic in this thrashed town.....

Got better that zip cords, but......can't hear the dog whistles, even with or because of my aids.....😖

  • 5500 USD (for 2 meter length and US wall plug / custom lengths in 0.5 meter increments at $500 per meter, 1 meter minimum, Schuko wall plug add $100)

Now, I’m not the brightest bulb on the tree, but given the above wouldn’t a 2 meter length cost $1000, or $1100 with the fancy wall plug??

@laginz

You may want to look into some relatively low-cost used FrontRow speaker cables.  The used cables have dropped in price recently. I personally feel the speaker cable is the most important cable. Or has the most audible difference in my system.

Power cord word salad.. speed, clarity, warmth, brittleness, thin, body. There’s more.. maintaining, sacrificing, transparency, tonal balance, immediacy, transient, and wait… Forward presentation !! All that beauty comes with a price tag proportionally spearheaded with gullibility in mind. It’s funny though I’ll give it that, humour is good. 

Cheers 

@laginz ,

Apparently if you want that Bellasound audio cable, by their own declaration you can buy a 1.5 meter custom length for $750, or a 2.5 meter length for $1250 instead of the 2 meter length for $5500.

Must be some type of enhanced quantum math...

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Assuming the cable is for the amplifier and within $1000 new and used…

Audience forte f3

TWL Seven Plus

Nordost Heimdall 2

Nordost Frey 2

Shunyata Alpha

@yyzsantabarbara Audience FrontRow speaker cables are awesome and it’s a solid recommendation but I’ve never seen a set for $1000. 

WyWires Platinum (www.wywires.com).  Meets all your stated requirements.  Four feet $999.00.  Sale!  35% off sale brings price to $649.35 … a bargain.  I use Platinum power, interconnects and USB cables throughout.  Alex Sventitsky, designer/CEO is great and will personally respond to your questions.  Read about tech on website and read pro reviews which I affirm correct.  No vested interest.  Just a fan because the product was one of those transformative changes to my system SQ.  

OP a quality power cord that tends to create a perspective that is more “front row” than “mid-hall”, without being thin or overly bright.

Only power cord that creates that sound is Wavetouch audio power cord. All other PCs’ mid are always far back. Some other PCs have aggressive forward veil/glare noises in front, but not the musical mid-range. Hear WTA PC here https://www.wavetouchaudio.com/reviews.html. WTPC v2 is under $500/5ft. Alex/WTA

Accuphase specifically recommends against using any power cord other than the one they supply with their amp. So far they have been right. Haven’t found a power cord that improves the sound over the stock cord. 

Just read the review of 27 best power cables.  Laughable the $500 Morrow cable reviews pretty much the same as the $5000 cables.  I'm sure any marginal sound improvement would be drowned out by the sound of $4500 flying out the window.  🤣

Wrap yourself in copper foil. Make holes for breathing. Play your music. Enjoy!!

Hello Laginz,

Have you considered making your own power cord(s)?  DIY gives you control over cost, length, AWG gauge, type of copper,shielding, sheathing, etc.  I've been assembling my own cables for several years.  There are a number of sources for the required components (raw cable, terminal ends (both IEC and power plug), sheathing in the type/colors of your choice.  My primary source for power cable supplies is

https://www.douglasconnection.com

You can DIY high end audiophile cables at 50/70% less than the equivalent of the off shelf power cord. No special tools needed, Just tape measure, good wire strippers,Phillips screwdriver, sharp razor cutter, heat shrink tubing in the colors of your choice.  Once you DIY your first cable you'll never go back to paying the high prices for the off the shelf audiophile cables.  And you'll have the satisfaction of making your own.

Enjoy the music!

 

bigtwin

Just read the review of 27 best power cables. Laughable the $500 Morrow cable reviews pretty much the same as the $5000 cables.

That’s right. No cable company knows how to make a proper power cable. The same brand and model cables made in same day and by a same person sound different each other. I know it because i know why that happen. And I know what they don’t know.

Also, audio companies and people don’t know they can’t meaningfully improve the sound until recordings are better. All recordings are noisy and un-natural sound because all microphones are bad.

You can hear dirty un-natural mic sound at left speaker in below. All recordings in the world sound like a left speaker. https://youtu.be/IHf_FSa8amE?si=l4B1PUMuQKNKyxpA

You can hear a natural sound recording & mic in below. https://youtu.be/2ru4D-mOMdo?si=WMjbxUESQzsDDuIQ

You are listening these videos with un-natural sound gears. Your audio system, your power cables, and computer speakers are un-natural dirty sound. Only Wavetouch audio power cables are natural sound and future proof.

Alex/WTA

@laginz

You want to ’create a perspective that is more “front row” than “mid-hall”’.

I would like to introduce you to a British electrical engineer, Mr Peter Walker, but he died in 2003. The company he founded, Quad Electroacoustics, produced valve and solid-state amplifiers in prodigious numbers, and he was the first to commercialise full-range electrostatic loudspeakers which are still very popular today.

His ideal amplifier was "a straight wire with gain". In recognition of the imperfections of recordings, his pre-amplifiers came with several subtle controls to allow music-lovers to optimise settings for record playback. His demonstrations often used A-B comparisons, where recorded music could be compared to live music - the actual source being hidden behind screens.

Now to the point. He deliberately described what we call the volume knob as the focus control. He encouraged listeners to adjust this control until everything came into focus, rather like a camera lens.

I am wondering if you already have a control that can change your perspective?

 

 I agree that  the simple “volume” knob is part of the equation in creating a front perspective, but not the only part.

@audphile1 Not under $1k but many at $2k, including 1 of my monoblock FrontRow cables. Though I may pull it since I am considering the Schitt Tyr monos.

Not having any exposure to SOTA ic/speaker/power cables renders my comments on such as basically a bronx cheer, but to spend 5.5K$ would make self desire to be purchasing 2m + connects from a company that makes them for NASA or research facilities like CERN....

They have to prove they hit their specs every single zeptosecond accurately in a lab....

...and Space Rating stuff is Harder yet.

Spend what you feel you must.🤷‍♂️

Personally, waiting for the quantum computer cluster of the week to answer "42" and shut themselves off permanently.... Or, "Everything You Know Is Wrong."., followed by HAL's death scenes, including "Daisy" before heading to the right side of the decimal for pi.

(...btw, The Biggest Fundamental Questions That ‘42’ Really IS The Answer To  

...and that's just 'the fundamentals'....

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...not at all...

Keep banging those rocks together. ;)

Good timing.....42x42=3528. Add 1 to each numeral (1111) = my above post #'er...

No, not on purpose, but....😏...can wait for the next....*G*

4 ones or 2 twos.....

Warning:  This can eat your brain.

Can I watch?

🤔

@laginz "I agree that  the simple “volume” knob is part of the equation in creating a front perspective, but not the only part."

Would the other part not be to do with the recording itself?  For example, placement of microphones (assuming a natural venue since you mention front row and mid-hall)?

If you really want to make a change, try DSP where you can switch between venue types.  A lot more options than swapping a power cord!

As RichardBrand again correctly noted, microphone placement in recording can also be a factor in the perceived sitting position. But since I am in the market for a new power cord anyway, I’d like to try to adress the issue in this fashion. I’ve tried a few cords in the past and it has made a difference in this regard. 

The best that I have heard that create a front row perspective when used on an amplifier is the Virtual Dynamics Master LE. 

@mihorn  It must be a burden, being the only person that knows how to make a good cable.  

bigtwin

@mihorn  It must be a burden, being the only person that knows how to make a good cable.

You are right. Everything has 2 sides.

 

waytoomuchstuff

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Audioquest Thunder.
 

not based on my experience with AQ Thunder, Tornado and Hurricane that were bottom heavy and dark sounding. 

Physics aside, AC cabling, Trans formers AC to DC, multiple filters for multiple reasons, through fuses, And people think there is tonal quality and control in a short section of primary wire from a receptacle box. Oh the power of dreaming laced with Placebo. They made a movie like that, Build it and they will come… better yet One flew over the cuckoo’s nest. 

If you got a "front row power cord" (I’m not sure what that is), but your electronics and speaker are "mid-hall" perspective, you’re not suddenly going to feel like you’re in the front row). It will be mildly closer. And perhaps not noticeable.

Myself, I have top of the line Shunyata and Nordost. I’m saying that for perspective. I’ve had top of the line power cords since 1995, and none I’ve heard change the perspective as dramatically as you seem to want. That is no the purpose of power cords. Their job is only to provide clean AC. Might I suggest you approach this some other way.

Also, when you ask for advice, it helps if you list your system, so that someone who owns a piece of equipment you do might chime in with how they solved the issue. It might not be the power cord you need to change to get a more "intimate" perspective on the music; it could be something else.

@1971gto455ho You, like most people, are assuming the power cord might affect the quality of the mains supply, if it affects anything at all, which I guess you doubt.  Much more likely is that it modulates in some way RFI generated by your equipment that it powers. 

Elsewhere I have given a reproducible example of a power cord feeding a subwoofer with an in-built class D amplifier, which generates lots of switching noise.  The cable was acting as an antenna and destroying TV signals.  A couple of ferrite rings round the power cord fixed that issue.

Pass actually does recommend the supplied power cable...it's in the XA25 paperwork.