Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

This double album with many different musicians from japan unknown here is stunning...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD36KIbA9dA&list=OLAK5uy_lRIsKWNhn9T5xOEMfCt1ryTAz6N_MBydE

 

This double album with other unknown here japan musicians is no less stunning..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv2RxjsbWA&t=317s

I lied....

Another one:

Sadao Watanabe...

Here bossa nova ... He like brazil...

But me i prefer all his pure jazz albums ...

He is self taught ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPhx4ExnheQ

This one is not from Japan jazz...

purely American and stupendous...

It is Monterose sax in a club playing for 2 hour 24 minute with the crowd noise in the background...It is not an annoyance, it add to the atmosphere in fact...

Chuck D'Aloia is an excellent guitarist with Monterose here...

Relaxing at the extreme and very good... Only a simple night in a club well improvised...

i enjoy it from yesterday .... Thanks to the Monterose lover here...

I have it only on youtube but i can now listen music on youtube with My litlle speakers in a small acoustic corner 7 feet by 8 by 9 with diffusive devices and my chosen minerals on the powered speakers and computer terminals... ... It is amazing.... Audiophile who know a bit of acoustic could live with 200 bucks self powered 2 way speakers... Waiting for my 1000 bucks new headphone amplifier-pre-amp , i feel a bit like an idiot who had made a useless purchase...It will be better on my k340 headphone yes but.... 😊

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBywQitTvug

@mahgister

 

Can I ask you the model of your new 1000,00 headphone amp/pre amp.

Is it also a DAC?

I use this 100 dollar gadget Amazon.com: Qudelix-5K Bluetooth USB DAC AMP with LDAC, aptX Adaptive, aptX HD, AAC (Dual ES9219 3.5mm Unbalanced & 2.5mm Balanced Output) : Electronics which receives the audio through Spotify I have close to 250 playlists. My phone, a cheap Samsung lower tier (350.00) smart phone, is used as my digital audio player (DAP) and sends the music files via blue tooth to my Qudelix DAC/AMP.

As you can see in the photo on Amazon, the Qudelix has 2 outputs. One is a 3.5mm unbalanced and one is a 2.5mm balanced. I use the 2.5mm balanced for my headphones which is the Sennheiser HD650. The 3.5mm I use for my Soundboks Go portable speaker. SOUNDBOKS Go | Portable Bluetooth Performance Speaker

I use the headphones occasionally and the Qudelix DAC/AMP performance far exceeded my expectations.

Although the Quedelix receives audio from my DAP via blue tooth signal I use a hard wire to connect the headphones or speaker. I use a 2.5mm balanced Audiophile Ninja headphone cable Custom Headphone Cables ⋆ Audiophile Ninja and for the speaker a generic 3.5mm male to male interconnect.

The majority my use of the Qudelix is with the speaker when I am working. I drive a tractor trailer semi 8 - 12 hours per day/night and the audio using the Qudelix and Soundboks go is amazing. A little lacking in the mid range which I fix with the Qudelix on board PEQ and the Soundboks Go EQ. 

You could try out the qudelix and if you do not like it Amazon Europe probably has the same 30 day free returns as Amazon USA.

Yes I spend hours on the road listening to music while making money......

Thanks, @mahgister 

Am enjoying your suggestions...

Some may be challenging to find on CD but I will look. 

@curiousjim 

Arturo O' Farrill 

+1 

 

 

I listen now on two medium:

My chinese sabre dac linked to my computer and with the M-audio AV 40 2 way self powered speakers in a completely acoustically dedicated corner... It beat most headphone with imaging , just enough bass ...

It is for youtube casual listening.... Sometimes my files...

I listen more seriously  on my AKG k340 headphone powered by my Sansui alpha and a Hididz Ap 80 pro, with battery powered which decrease noise floor level , with a huge internal  files bank ( no computer link then ) and an equalizer necessary for my K340....This dac is a stupendous  bargain for what it give me... It is sold as a dap but i use it fixed on my desk... 😊

Now i just upgrade with a dedicated headphone amplifier Microzotll2 at bargain price + remote +linear power supply, , with the choice to use it as a pre-amp of top quality for my Sansui AU 7700, because my K340 may need this power... I will decide which is better : the pre-amp + sansui amp or just the microzotl2 as headphone amp... I receive it tomorrow...

I enjoy audiophile sound at low cost...

My system will be way under 2000 bucks.....and very satisfying... Acoustic is the key for speakers... For headphone i disliked them all save my K340.... 😁

 

 

@mahgister

 

Can I ask you the model of your new 1000,00 headphone amp/pre amp.

Is it also a DAC?

@mahgister That Sansui AU7700 is a beautiful vintage integrated amp. Your headphones are also vintage.

And I just saw a review for the Microzotll2 here and it looks awesome as well.

(1) REVIEW: Linear Tube Audio MZ2-S - YouTube

And I agree that acoustic room treatment and speakers/speaker placement is very important. Those M Audio speakers have great reviews.

Keep me posted when you set up the MZ2 and have a listening session.

Do you have the Bill Evans Complete live at the Village Vanguard box set?  Its his awesome trio with bassist Scott Lofaro and drummer Paul Motian. Enjoy the music!

(1) Spoken Introduction by Bill Evans from 'The Complete Village Vanguard Recordings, 1961' - YouTube

Thanks for the appreciation... You are a "connoisseur"... 😊

 

The AKG K340 is my audio king , i bought the zotl for it...

The M-Audio AV40 , i bought 12 years ago , is a masterpiece at peanuts price under only one condition : a very small corner ( i used foldable screen ) acoustically prepared for it...If not i discarded it as without interest 12 years ago....The room was too big and i had no acoustic understanding at these times... Hopefully i kept it... For casual listening it is perfect...I used also "minerals" on my connections... Some think i am a "tin foil hat"... 😁 With all that i enjoy with 100 bucks speakers a soundfield as good if not better than most headphone... But the tonal timbre and space representation  and deep bass with the K340 is no match for my little speakers even if they are so good i am astounded by my 100 bucks 12 years old purchase... I listened non stop for the last 2 days to refine my acoustic installation ...

 

Yes i have this village Vanguard series i listened often... Evans is an artist i vouch only admiration but i am not alone...

 

Here i prefer to recommend to all unknown or under the radar musicians... I dont think that miles Davis , Chet Baker, or Evans need me and everybody know their name.... Monterose for example i even never read his name and it is interesting ...

 

 

@mahgister That Sansui AU7700 is a beautiful vintage integrated amp. Your headphones are also vintage.

And I just saw a review for the Microzotll2 here and it looks awesome as well.

(1) REVIEW: Linear Tube Audio MZ2-S - YouTube

And I agree that acoustic room treatment and speakers/speaker placement is very important. Those M Audio speakers have great reviews.

Keep me posted when you set up the MZ2 and have a listening session.

Do you have the Bill Evans Complete live at the Village Vanguard box set? Its his awesome trio with bassist Scott Lofaro and drummer Paul Motian. Enjoy the music!

(1) Spoken Introduction by Bill Evans from ’The Complete Village Vanguard Recordings, 1961’ - YouTube

Nardis ("Nar-This") with Brad Mehldau (p), Matt Brewer (b), and Antonio Sanchez (d):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMacgXW_tSA

Recorded 2015 (2014?)

Yes i use them because a boost in the deep bass and in the higher highs boost the two cells working and i equalize with my dac a dip at 1000 hertz...

With the microzotl though i will not be able as a pre-amp it will nullify the tone controls of the Sansui AU 7700 and as an headphone too...

The tone control of the alpha are very refined , those of the Au 7700 are very good,  alas! my alpha had no separation between the power amp and the pre-amp as the Au 7700... Only most costlier alpha give it... 😁

I hope the Zotl 2 is as good as the reviews... Even at bargain price it cost me a lot... 1,600 US at least ... And it is a bargain with remote and linear power supply...2,000 thousand less than the microzotl3...

It is a violation of my rule : audiophile experience for the less wealthy citizen which stipulate a system max cost around 1000 bucks... 😊 I succeeded to do so till now with speakers or headphone... But i was curious of the slave ZOTL about the way it will serve the King K340...

@mahgister

I’m curious -- do you use the EQ controls on the Sansui?

 

@mahgister 

I was surprised to learn the Sansui had such EQ controls. I figured, given what you've discovered and commented upon RE: "embedding" systems, that EQ wouldn't be something you'd utilize.

I use a Schiit Lokius occasionally, usually to reinforcing lower mids and/or rolling off highs with bright CDs. Although it involves extra cost -- requiring two sets of interconnects-- I value the added flexibility this set-up offers when it comes to tone-shaping. Still, the more dialed-in my system becomes, the less I use the EQ. 

I have no experience with LTA, but I've yet to encounter anything but positive remarks about their products, here on the forum. 

The AKG K340 is a very particular headphone being Hybrid...

I did not need to use tone controls in my speakers room nor with my other headphones...

But the K340 need a boost around 30 and 40 hertz and around 12,000 hertz...

It make it even better... It is because the two cells are more responsive...I never need equalization with my speakers or my other headphones too... With the K340 i need to increase for some Db at 1000 hertz... My ears said so... and the Harman curve too...

I am not a "purist" audiophile...

I use my ears ...

And i serve the K340 , he do not serve me; but  he serve my ears...

 

@mahgister

I was surprised to learn the Sansui had such EQ controls. I figured, given what you’ve discovered and commented upon RE: "embedding" systems, that EQ wouldn’t be something you’d utilize.

 

@mahgister 
Great stuff!

This double album with many different musicians from japan unknown here is stunning...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD36KIbA9dA&list=OLAK5uy_lRIsKWNhn9T5xOEMfCt1ryTAz6N_MBydE

 

This double album with other unknown here japan musicians is no less stunning..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNv2RxjsbWA&t=317s

@mahgister 

I never need equalization with my speakers or my other headphones too... 

I never remember you saying anything about using EQ in the past with your previous system but then, I'd never noticed the tone controls on the Sansui before.  My poor observation skills!   ;o) 

 

I never used an equalizer because i never needed one...

I bought my Hidizs dac to serve the K340 and i needed his internal equalizer like the tone control for the K340...I did not want to buy a sophisticated EXTERNAL equalizer, because the task was simple and easy to do around 1000 hertz...

I dont used any equalizer with my other headphone and i never need the equalization nor the tone controls really for them...All those years my tone controls were almost unused save by curiosity trials...

In my room i did not need an electronical equalization either and anyway i did not want to invest big money in a good one ....

I needed a mechanical equalization which  i created with a grid of mechanically tuned 100  Helmholtz resonators distributed in some location in bundles to improve the relation between my ears listening position each speaker of the Mission Cyrus 781 in relation with each ears and the room pressure zones distribution...

The K340 is one of the most complex headphone ever designed, with his two cells and his inner dual chambers with the 5 Helmholtz tuned resonators and a transformer for the crossover point ...

It reacted to the source and too any change negatively or positively very strongly, any modification , mechanical , electrical or acoustical impact the soundfield impression...

Single membrane headphone with no internal resonators, as most headphones are,  are more previsible in their output... The K340 has aged and need care to reach his optimum... It is not a simple headphone, it is a pair of speakers for the ears, it is why i needed tone controls too +equalisation to optimize them for my own ears... Even the choice of pads thickness and density is critical, i tried five pairs... 😊

I never remember you saying anything about using EQ in the past with your previous system but then, I’d never noticed the tone controls on the Sansui before. My poor observation skills! ;o)

 

What a great jazz swedish pianist can do with 3 albums :

 

Jan Johansson, he died young in a car accident, there is other album , this one is the most well known...

 

Inspired by swedish melodies :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j23q5WTDXg4&list=PLnQJF3Qi_4_A1sxJ9O8sIpxKOTsGoe_Ya&index=39

 

Jazz Inspired by Russian melodies :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvNks1oAjhE

 

More traditionaL BOP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3WsHtuHM0

 

very original too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUNZA4ltxYE

@mfili35 

I’ve been a Chesky fan for years!  All of his recordings are first rate and some make my soundstage grow well beyond my speakers.

Have you heard The Hi-Fi Collective? 

Hiromi Uehara is releasing a new album October 6th 2023!!

Sonicwonder is the title and she will be at Sony Hall in NYC for an "album release show" on Friday October 13 and Saturday 14.

I already purchased tickets.

Hiromi has a new 3 piece band backing her. See here:

Hiromi Announces New Album 'Sonicwonderland' with Hadrien Feraud on Bass - Bass Magazine - The Future of Bass 

Hiromi’s Sonic Wonder - 6/24/23 CBJF, Wilmington DE - YouTube

 

I know I am probably (based on threads history) the only fan of Hiromi Uehara here on JFA but I did not expect all of the esteemed jazz aficionados here, who have been posting regularly all week, to "tune out" upon seeing my Hiromi post...

Anyway...

There has been a lot of talk about trumpet players recently with many of the greats being mentioned. Everybody here knows (from thread history) that Clifford Brown is my favorite trumpet player after the great Mr. Louis Armstrong.

The Clifford Brown Max Roach Quintet was described by the New York Times as  "perhaps the definitive bop group until Mr. Brown's fatal automobile accident in 1956".

Here are a few standouts from their repertoire:

With Harold Land on tenor sax

(2) Clifford Brown & Max Roach - Joy Spring - YouTube

(2) Clifford Brown & Max Roach Quintet - Daahoud - YouTube

(2) Clifford Brown & Max Roach - Delilah - YouTube

Sonny Rollins on tenor sax

(2) I'll Remember April - Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street - YouTube

(2) Clifford Brown & Max Roach - 1956 - At Basin Street - 01 What Is This Thing Called Love - YouTube

More with Sonny Rollins on Rollins' album Sonny Rollins Plus 4. This is essentially the same quintet but recorded and released with Rollins as the leader.

(2) Pent-Up House / sonny rollins plus4 - YouTube

(2) Sonny Rollins + 4 - Valse Hot - YouTube

@pjw81563 

I've never been much of a synth fan. 

Has Hiromi done any recordings performing solely on acoustic piano? 

I concur...i prefer a more jazzy Hiromi too ...

Thanks acman  for this one...

Is this thread running out of steam?

Quick-- someone bring up something controversial about Jazz ! ;o)

How about this -- what was the most recent live Jazz gig you attended ?

For me, it’s been, I’m guessing, close to ten years: Kenny Werner Trio at the Harris Center in Folsom, CA. Werner was booked for the smallest, most intimate of their three performance spaces that seats just 200. Despite its diminutive size, it was not sold out, so we were able to stay for the second set for free. Such is the sad state of Jazz appreciation in America. The Harris Center is a gorgeous venue -- must’ve cost a fortune to build and the lenders must be applying pressure because it’s been years since any Jazz or anything remotely interesting has been offered -- it’s all blandly inoffensive mainstream pablum, at this point. I guess that’s what the public wants.

Anyway, it was this group: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwW5XKCfP4A

I really miss being able to experience live Jazz. But at this point, I’m not willing to spend 2-3 three hours each way in the insanity that is Bay Area traffic. All the more reason to own a nice system!

BTW, Werner is also known as the author of a "Effortless mastery -- Liberating the Master Musician Within" which addresses common psychological difficulties, such as perfectionism, that hamper many players. 

Ella Fitzgerald was really a blond and wore a size nine dress!

Is this thread running out of steam?

Quick-- someone bring up something controversial about Jazz ! ;o)

That’s about as controversial as I can get.😁

Hey @acman3 That is a nice recording. More Hiromi piano

Here, Hiromi, Chick Corea and Hank Jones all playing and Sadao Watanabe is introduced around the 14:50 mark.

(2) Hank Jones Trio, Sadao Watanabe, Chick Corea, Hiromi, Austin Peralta - Tokyo Jazz 2006 - YouTube

This is Hiromi's typical keyboard set up. I have already saw her live 2x (2009 and 2014) and she stacks the smaller electronic keyboards on top of an acoustic piano as well as one on the side. Hiromi is adventurous and likes blending the sounds of electric and acoustic keyboards into her repertoire.

Piano solo starts at 0:08

(2) Hiromi - Timeout piano solo - YouTube

 

@curiousjim

 

Ella Fitzgerald was really a blond and wore a size nine dress!

Yes -- best to treat it as a joke and not (deliberately) tread on any toes !

Egads -- what was I thinking? 

 

@stuartk been listening to Kenny Werner. I have a few CDs and, after revisiting them, specifically Lawn Chair Society, Animal Crackers and With a Song in my Heart I will check out some more sessions I am not familiar with.

Its too bad your home is far from any jazz venues. I live 1 hour from NYC so its not a problem for me...

 

@pjw81563 

You are fortunate! 

I grew up in Middletown, NY (Orange County), so we visited NYC quite a bit when I was a kid, both my parents having been born in Brooklyn. And there were quite a few school field-trips down there, as well. Not to Jazz clubs, though...  ;o)

Kenny Werner plays on my favorite Tom Harrell release, "Labyrinth":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsHFi8jtJPM&list=OLAK5uy_kQC7RjgFFzCnffP3hp4c8PG476fhaWUzg

 

 

 

Does anyone here like Sun Ra?  He’s put out a ton of albums, but I really can’t listen to any of them.

Is it just me?

I dont like all of his huge output ... Complete free jazz...

But i am fascinated by some of his music and personnality...

The musicians around him are fascinated by him and tell a very interesting story...

If you have time listen to a documentary , because his personnality is very related to his music and help a lot to understand the real genius behind the music ... ...

I already posted a masterpiece by him and Walt Dickerson : " Visions "

He made another masterpiece with him :

" Impression of a patch of blue"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yql5cToVoAw&list=OLAK5uy_kRezZ5od7UbN2T_J4pX3NxcpoMQ4CIHsI

His ouput is not commercial nor a "finished" delivered product most of the times as "visions" or "impression of a patch of blue "... But it is a giant anyway ... It is music always in the making ... He played all day long without stop really ... The studio are only some marked spot without great meaning on his ongoing playing process 24 hours /24 without end , some musicians could not escape at all and stay with him and worship him till today.........

i even purchased his bio because nobody is so into music that this man as Bach was ...But it is not easy to listen and not fun all the times... Sun Ra like Scriabin is an acquired taste and a learning ... I learned a lot trying to understand him... i learned that music is here to terraform a new earth , exactly the same project as Scriabin , but with jazz... it is more than mere music for entertainment as Scriabin was or Bach...

No doubt he is a creative mind of the first order in music ....

The question at the end and in the beginning is not about loving or not Sun Ra music, but feeling his goal listenintg it... After all not every musician has as only goal to transform the planet itself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238Dh6N9GLg

 

Then dont try to like him and his music... Try to decipher his bio trough youtube documentary and listen to him at small dose for fun ... Sometimes you will hate it sometimes not ...You will see the effects...😊

Does anyone here like Sun Ra? He’s put out a ton of albums, but I really can’t listen to any of them.

Is it just me?