Kanye West on-camera last nite: 'Beck needs to respect artistry.' Then a long rant about...ah just watch it.
What would Kanye say about Beethoven? Or Dylan? or Matisse?
Having fun with this as Twitter is aflame already with it. But the more I think about it, the more it gnaws on me. He was referring to Beck winning Album of the Year (instead of Beyonce). I could go on a long rant myself about his ego, general creepiness, but nothing I could add. But his comments are heard by millions of music fans...
Anyhoo, anyone else see those comments? Reactions?
Hew, he's 37. That's old enough to know better. And saying that does not make biased or closed-minded. Do you think the producers should allow each and every member to give their opinion as to who deserves the album of the year award?
Yes, it would appear that most here do not think highly of him as a person in general. For me its based solely on his behavior. I have no issues with his talent. He obviously has some or would not be where he is.
As does his wife although they have nothing to do with music or the arts. In her case, I do not value them much at all and I find the behavior of both in general to be classless and largely reprehensible.
I have a download of Kanye's tune "Stronger". Its catchy enough and nicely produced. The lyrics are undeniably lewd and suggestive. Much like a lot of pop rock music over the years. So it is what it is and take it for that.
He's entitled to his own opinion and he can shout it from the rooftops after the show or tweet it or facebook it or however he wants to disseminate it, but not verbally during the awards ceremony. Rude is rude.
HE can do whatever he wants. Just don't expect people to approve. I doubt he really cares though. I don't really either that much. Its just a discussion. Anyone can say or do whatever they want within teh limits of the law. Its a free country.
kanye is an idiot for taking away what should have been a very proud moment for Beck,,and it was Becks moment and shithead kanye should not have been part of it.Someone said that kanye has some grammys,,I wonder how he would have felt had someone done the same to him.
Maybe the next time Kanye wins an award someone will dump a bucket of something appropriate--such as bullshit--on him. The guy needs to grow up. I do give him credit for stopping himself from going further than he did on the actual broadcast this time. Maybe that's a sign of hope.
West and people like him are conditioned not to care about approval from other people. I'm sure his attitude is "anyone who doesn't like what I do or say can kiss my a.."
Its not a temper issue this should not be on Audiogon i could be wrong don't really care about West and his big ass wife.Sorry if I'm a little hostile please forgive me.
I don't like Kanye either, he is too immature for my tastes.
However, to demand that the thread be taken down, that a subject on the Grammys has no place on an Audio forum, displays a great deal of immaturity too.
You have to stop crying like a 2 year old when you don't get your way Ebm.
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If one were to take the major labels out of the equation and allow more creative content without regards to sales, imagine just how long some of this mass market music would last.
One really can't blame the artist if he's the one being marketed: he's wholly a creation of the machine.
Every time I see Kanye West, with his punked-out, bad-azzed permanent scowl, all I can think of is ... "Now there's a guy who needs a real down home Southern ass-whompin' ..."
I was just enjoying some music from Crosby Stills & Nash that is almost 40 years old......will anybody be listening to this POS's music in 5 years ???? God I hope not .....he is a typical
Onhwy61 I do not think that is why he sell bazillions of his music. That happens because they like his music, not because people are pissed off at it. Please tell 'us'(the signifier)what he is doing right,('something' right?). So if he is trying to . . .?? What does he want pissed off people to do?? After this may your soul be warm and I guess pissed off. That's good right??
What he is doing "right" is pissing off the establishment. Many musicians have done this over the years. Win the hearts of the young by pissing off the elders. You could look at Elvis Pressly, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, etc. They all were highly volitile acts, folks either loved them or hated them. Not that I think that Kayne West belongs in that group, but that is kind of what he is doing.
Right to the point - he is not a musician. Will we even be mentioning his name in years to come, I hope to hell we are not and especailly along side of the likes that you have mentioned. I understand and realize at my age different generations contibutions to music are always up for discussion ....the golden age of swing and ajzz...the big band era, the sixtiesand the seventies.....disco and metal hair bands in the eighties ...and so on. But this guy......no way !
All one needs do is watch the South Park "Fish Sticks" episode broadcast earlier in 2015 to vicariously enjoy watching Kanye lampooned in a manner that in different times would be considered crude, immature, vulgar, not to neglect mentioning downright funny. More surprising than the episode itself was the lack of any response from his camp - perhaps because his self-proclaimed "genius" cannot fathom the intelligence required to respond in a like manner.
This, aside from being a delayed contribution to the forum, in and of itself does not cast aspersions on the awards part of the music business since that would be akin to looking at a vacuum cleaner and stating that it sucks.
I, for one, did not know that he was married to Beyoncé. Knowing it now I have to offer that I do not care, either.
Together and/or apart they're Vegas grade entertainers self designed to keep their stardom shining brightly with little or no regard, nor need, to produce the sort of music the majority of A'goners would appreciate. They are stars, want to be stars, and if recording a sea shanty would sell more of their records you would have heard Beyonce's "roarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" already.
People who publicly proclaim their genius do so because it's difficult as hell to simply wear it somehow and allow others to bask in the glow of the brilliance. Scratch a stranger on the street and you may well discover a genius amongst the crowd, walk along with a crowd of people shouting out loud their genius and you're apt to walk a different route.
oblgny, ha-ha, never bought an issue in my life, I wouldn't know. But I read stuff on the internet. If anyone has interest in sports and/or music (and I like both) it's hard to escape the Kardashians. But I've never seen their show. Not sure why they have one.
Jeepers, tostadosunidos, you think moi subscribed to that rag???
I still subscribe to The New Yorker and The Atlantic, my audio specific reading reading usually occurs when I'm flying, bought at the terminal magazine shops. I actually really don't know a mosfet from a misfit, but I know what I like?
hew, are you sure you're not playing the "age card" without really thinking about what the bunch of old farts are saying? You can dislike something or somebody without being prejudiced. Neither age nor race has anything to do with my disapproval of the way Kanye acts. FWIW, I find some of his music interesting. Not compelling, to where I go buy it or even listen to it online, but interesting. But he needs to edit/filter his words and actions in public or suffer the ridicule they incur. He's been acting like an arrogant fool in front of millions of people. And he's not that young anymore, is he?
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