Neil Young calls out Tidal
@cns1946 you don’t have to read or reply to this thread then . No one is forcing you to participate, please ignore us 🙏🙏🙏
Some of the members on audiogon want all the unvaccinated to die, they want us ostracised from society, lose access to medical services and be fired from our jobs. It’s a bit hard to keep the topic limited to 🎛🎛🎛🎛🎛🎛stereos and music🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵when that kind of rhetoric is flying about. I hope you can understand why this is an important conversation 🙏🙏🙏❤
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@terry9 ease up on the sarcasm please 🙏🙏 If you have point, please make it without the extra zingers added to enrage the other side👍 We are all adults here, I think 🙏 |
Don’t know if you’ve noticed this, Yuri, but there are these things called hospitals. They are used to treat sick people, like with heart trouble or cancer or accidents or knee replacements. Except now,’bout all they do is Covid. Little to none of anything else. THAT’s why we need people like you to get vaccinated. Not for your own silly skins, but so that the rest of us get to use hospitals again, if we need them. |
@sokogear in all probability, this number is on the very lower end of all injuries and deaths. This is data just from the European Union, a population of about 300 million. Vaccine injuries historically have been underreported (1-10% of actual totals), there are a myriad of reasons for that, you can read the Harvard report to understand why. Vaccine mandates are a crime against humanity, and are in direct violation of the Helsinki Declarations and the Nuremberg Code. |
A Harvard Vaccine Injury Study conducted from 2007 to 2010, reveals on page 6 a fewer than 1 % report rate in VAERS.
http://harvard-vaccine-injury-study-page-6-reveals-1-percent-report-rate.pdf/ |
No I’m not. Didn’t even consider it. 38,000 lost if true is certainly notable. I would guess there wasn’t a direct causal relationship, just like some of the Covid deaths is probably attributable to multiple causes. As a percentage of the vaccination numbers in the billions, the adverse reactions to the vaccine is very small, far less than the number saved by it. |
From the total of injuries recorded, almost half of them (1,672,872 ) are serious injuries.
A Health Impact News subscriber in Europe ran the reports for each of the four COVID-19 shots we are including here. It is a lot of work to tabulate each reaction with injuries and fatalities, since there is no place on the EudraVigilance system we have found that tabulates all the results. Since we have started publishing this, others from Europe have also calculated the numbers and confirmed the totals.* Here is the summary data through January 29, 2022. Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine Tozinameran (code BNT162b2,Comirnaty) from BioNTech/ Pfizer: 17,578 deaths and 1,704,757 injuries to 29/01/2022
Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine mRNA-1273 (CX-024414) from Moderna: 11,008 deaths and 543,543 injuries to 29/01/2022
Total reactions for the vaccine AZD1222/VAXZEVRIA (CHADOX1 NCOV-19) from Oxford/ AstraZeneca: 7,977 deaths and 1,154,757 injuries to 29/01/2022
Total reactions for the COVID-19 vaccine JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S) from Johnson & Johnson: 2,420 deaths and 127,305 injuries to 29/01/2022
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More fun facts about the Unvaxxed. Adults who had not received any doses of the COVID vaccine differed from those who had received at least one dose of a COVID vaccine across several measures.
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@sokogear So you are a racists? The majority of the un-vaccinated are NOT WHITE.
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Yes I do think I’m the only one. It’s obvious, no ONE is having any issues with people just like you only with people like me. Isn’t that what you’re trying to convince me of. I’m not repeating what someone else said. I’m giving an example that chosen ignorance has no place in our society anymore than laying on hands and expecting a miracle when the miracle is right in front of you in the way of a doctor. Some people still believe in fasting for God sakes and other VERY foolish practices. No one is stopping them from their own ways. Go out and drive then pass out, who is the more foolish? The sanctimonious few doing the deed or the ones passing out from a very contagious SARs, which they probably wouldn’t have IF we could get the rest of the world, NOT you just the rest of the world, to help stop the spread and contain the mess. You got the right to complain about YOU not me buddy. I did my part, over and over and over for MY country.. The only thing that is owed at this point is to me, and right AFTER me your next. Fall in line, the line forms to the rear after everyone else that is ahead of you.. Got a vaccination and go to the hospital, you’ll be treated, go to the hospital and not be vaccinated, you’ll be put in isolation and the time clock punched for every single minute of care you need.. Pay on the way out, hope you don’t come back. Labor camp is out back if you have a payment problem.. No different than at the border, NO WORK, NO EAT. Bring your job with you and leave your family behind.. period.. The same way my parent did all over this flippin’ world.. BTW ME TOO. I worked the world, I didn’t travel it.. You have NEVER seen sickness, just pictures, wait till you smell it.. Mr. Smarty pants.. Africa 1977. My God. Hemorrhagic fever outbreak.. 120 degrees in SCBA. You could smell the stench at 29,000 feet before we landed.. Feeling sorry ain’t the problem, scared to death is more like it.. It ain’t got bad yet.. I hope it never does.. 3 weeks is ALL it takes for the world to change. How much crow can you eat. SARS can kill everything, not just birds, people, pigs, dogs and cows. It’s a pesky little devil.
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who mandated the lockdowns? You think you were the only one that suffered through these last two years? You think "because" you suffered, that now it makes it okay for you to wish death on everyone that is making a different medical decision than you? You are going to hate me for saying this, but it needs to be said......Man the F up, stop feeling sorry for yourself, and stop crying about your lot in life. I know people that had to suffer their loved ones dying scared, alone, with no one around to even give them a glass of water, stuck in nursing homes....because this psychotic government imprisoned them for their own safety. Sons forced to watch their Mothers wither away from the other side of a window. Bodies cremated before their families could say their last goodbyes.
I didn’t support any of these lockdowns, not even when the news was lying about the death rate being 8%,......but I bet You Did.
so stop fishing for sympathy, there can be no reason strong enough to justify what you people are doing here. |
@yuviarora lol, I was waiting for you to jump in. Again, if you really believe all the crap you post, and that the vaccines doesn’t work, you shouldn’t have an issue waiting your turn and pay for the health care related to COVID since you don’t believe that vaccine works or rather, they make it worse. again, put your health and money where your mouth is. I am not asking anyone to do anything against their beliefs, just live with the consequences of their choices. But that is too much. |
yuviaroraYou resemble him now accusing me of being hypocrit instead of arguments.. you go too far... He is not a psychopath.. Please restrain yourself here... i apologize to be rude but i was speaking with him and i dont like that someone, agreeing with some of my arguments , accuse him falsely.. i write that because i dont want to be ASSOCIATED with your accusation toward him... No ad hominem arguments make sense... The brains of the population conformed by political slogans are not the brain of psychopath... I dont want that he think i think so at all....
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@oldhvymec I suggest you sell some of your music equipment, and get at least a dozen of these immediately. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't been sick with anything other than heart attacks behind blood clots in my heart and lung. Stupid me! I wasn't on any type of heart med or BP med or thinner. POW! I was putting up a fence and a 6x6 post from the local lumber yard was being delivered at the time. The delivery guy lost his grip and bingo, that 60+ lb 10ft 6x6 hit the back of my knee and I buckled (can't imagine why CLIPPING 15 yards) 3 days later I'm having heart attacks non stop for over 40 hours.. Covid has everything in full lock down. The back of my leg looked like my stay in the 4 x 4ft home away from home in Panama 30+ years ago. It took me a while to learn to shut my mouth, they beat me daily. I wouldn't shut up.. Still won't. I hope that guys lips fell off for beating me.. I forgave him.. Took a while though.. Me and the GOOD Lord got in the NY minute mode a few times over the years, never once have I EVER felt alone.. Buddy I been in some tight spots too. IF I wouldn't have been taking malaria meds and been thoroughly immunized I would not have made it period.. To many guys in that place were being lost to hepatitis, malaria or amoebic dysentery. They did have the he/she's separated but sexually transmitted diseases were a killer too at the time. The beating were almost worth the segregation from some of the perverts.. Almost.. I never had a problem. Mechanics have VICE grips. I grab it, it comes OFF.. :-) |
@fredrik222 how much do you weigh Fredrick? Do you have any idea how dumb your argument is?
Everyone in the hospital is there as a CONSEQUENCE of all the choices they make in their lives. Covid doesn’t just fall out of the sky... 80% of covid hospitalizations are of the Obese, all hospitalizations have on average 4 other chronic diseases. You really wanna play this game? People like you that are callously making judgements about who should get to live or die are the very embodiment of a true psychopath. The herd has gone MAD.
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There is no FREE choice in the milirary personel for example about the FORCED vaccination... No freedom at all ..Or do you think that they must be treated like obeying slaves? Loosing his means to eat three meals by day or be vaccinated is not my definition of free choice... do you need a drawing? Why do you think the greatest PACIFIC manifestation of all time take place in canada with over millions of people synchronized together against totalitarian politic?
Before accusing me of hypocrisy think twice..I will let other judge me here reading my posts... i freaked OUT ABOUT MASS VAXX MANDATED inforcing policy and UNIVERSAL censorship like the candian truckers did... i freak out about idiots who separed people in two groups...And who repeat political slogans instead of thinking... Am i an hypocrit? I will let others here with a brain decide for themselves what are the true matter of my posts about this situation... But you are not the light illuminating the world... "I am not judging you either" like you stupidly said accusing me of being an hypocrite one word after writing this sentence, instead of speaking about the matter behind this crisis... I quit ... Write no more either ABOUT ME , let the Neil Young fan be happy...
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@mahgister so we agree, you are a hypocrite. To clarify, I am not judging you, like I said I am all for choice. You do you! I literally just asking you to live with the consequences of your choice, be accountable. It is however funny to see how hysterical you get.
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@cleeds I meant every S I N G L E word. |
I freak out because there exist many other people like you, insentitive, under influence, ignorant about all science , And you JUDGED others like you just did with me NEVER ANSWERING my arguments, instead accusing me of freaking out about hospital cost i have to pay.. Incredible! I quit discussing with you , yes i freak out, but not for what you think at all... You are previsible like a rock rolling from the top of a hill, repeating in your post the same accusing slogan like i just predicted you will do : unvaccinated must be out of hospital or pay...What a great view of the word! What a great understanding of events! What a great mind you are! What a wise accountant you are indeed...I give you that you are a good accountant...
Before leaving i will explain to you what is thinking... Free of charge... Thinking is NOT First and last lending an intention to someone.. Thinking is in his working brain being able and willing to pass on review the ARGUMENTS of someone, trying to understanding them and answering to them ONE by ONE.. Do you catch it?
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@mahgister no. You are the one upside down. Like I said, all I am asking you to do is live with the consequences of your choice, and you freak out. How hypocritical is that? If you really believe what you are posting, you should not have any issues with paying for healthcare or wait your turn. But instead you freak out. Clearly you either don’t actually believe the crap you are posting, or you truly see yourself as superior and you want to be the tyrant. |
@oldhvymec I suggest you sell some of your music equipment, and get at least a dozen of these immediately.
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@mahgister please: Just one word answer. two people come into the ER. One due through no fault of his own walking down the street getting hit by a bus, and one with Covid who refused to get a vaccine for no reason other than ignorance, stupidity, stubbornness, selfishness, or supposed political affiliation. There is one bed. Who should get it? The one who was most likely a preventable case or the one with a accident/emergency. Medical personnel in hospitals are sick of hearing the unvaccinated regretting (or in the more insane cases, not regretting) their decision and are treating them with little sympathy. |
I have a grand brand spanking new idea..... you pay for whatever services you use, vaccinated or unvaccinated. Anyone... 2 years into this farce, that is still scared of croaking, can stay home, wear 50 masks, get jabbed 500 times, jump off a cliff for all I care. I, for one, am done playing along, your health is your responsibility...... if even after taking 50 shots, you can die by being breathed on by someone else, take it up with Pfizer, not children that have the rest of their lives in front of them. |
You completely reverse the situation... What is unethical is the imposition of an experimental vaxx , with no verified study of his effectiveness, with no informed consent because the companies dont even reveal the content in the vaxx, in a totalitarian way to ALL INDISCRIMINATELY which is scientifically pure stupidity... And there you go dividing people using a complete insane politic to separate them coming from a TV set news... .. Justifying all that with simplistic common place final argument you must pay for your behavior... Incredible deep thinking indeed... And you declared any scientist incompetent if he dont repeat Fauci... i wish you the best...
it is not accountability that make me freak out it is stupidity... Do you know how much people died in US because of the politic of Fauci only mandated forced remdesivir treatment which is toxic and intubation in the wrong way which is a fact proved , no basic low cost treatment they were all banned ... We wait for the vaxx said Fauci and the idiot Trump and the Biden fool repeated it..... No you dont... i give many arguments here you never answer one ... Not one... You repeated a POLITICAL mantra: not vaccinated must die...
Someone who give arguments may be wrong, but he cannot be called stupid especially if the arguments are not totally meaningless...But someone like you and Neil Young unable to give ONE argument and who repeat political slogan are in hypnosis to say the less offensive word.... Dont answer you will repeat the same song: "accountability", without even knowing WHO has written this slogan tune... And dont accuse me of repeating, i give MANY arguments and i can all explaining them ONE BY ONE but you cannot see even only one argument in my post so much you are under a trance... I am freak out by the like of Neil Young and you... Yes...
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@mahgister here you go again, posting debunked articles of no significance. Doesn’t matter what you post to try and justify your desire to not be held accountable for your choices. As soon as someone brings up accountability, you freak out. Well. Choice with out consequences is forcing your will and way on others, tyranny. Why are you above everyone else and can force your will and consequences of your actions on others?
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A crowd of lemmings walking together toward an abyss is not for me the definition of "unethical" when one of the lemmings did not go with insane mass vaccinations... Instead of critical thinking you propose a divide in the population that reflect a TV set programming..
And by way the ANYONE assimilating mRNa vaccines to other traditional vaccines is IGNORANT...PERIOD... Another tactic assimilating ALL diseases together and all vaccines... Stupidity to the roof... all cases are different... STUDY please...
how about that? this doctor is misinformed or you are? I just catch covid from my wife which is tripled vaccinated so what is your point value? ZERO... Programmed fanaticism by official medias is not thinking... «Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.»
I will add that criminally BANNED LOW COST treatments in the opposite of this vaxx make a difference in severe illness.. STUDY instead of repeating sleepwalking mantra of Fauci...And accusing me to be UNETHICAL because refuse an insane politic... UNTARGETTED MASS VAXX INSTEAD of risk/benefit thinking before applying it at risk groups of people with co morbidities is not science at all... Study... A corona virus is not the shingle virus... AWAKE... And stop calling thousand of scientists ignorant...Prof Yaakov Jerris is not an idiot...Neil Young is...
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fredrick222, you're pretty friggin smart. When it comes to WHO pays for what. Things change don't they? WHY am I getting a 100,000 bill and HE pays nothing.. HE was vaccinated.. PERIOD. What a concept. You have to pay for your OWN sins, even though there was an alternative that at least relieved some of the symptoms, pain, suffering, spreading and COST.. Being right in your own mind is fine. Trying to convince me that you know what your talking about, is good for anyone else, has to have a consequence. The word is a pretty powerful thing if the same BS gets said over and over. There is no POLIO or Hansen's disease, or Cholera or Diphtheria or ......... I wonder why? Did they get it right every single time. 1000 failures to get a single vaccine? 20, 30, 100,000. vs 7.9 billion.. The world is a BIG place with lots of people. NOT just the neighbor across the street you HATE.. Mercy, mighty small thinkin' BTW Martians invaded the White House and painted it RED. Now what is more important. Getting along or Getting it ON!! I'm game!!! Regards |
@yuviarora There are five times more vaccinated people than unvaccinated - 85% of Canadians are vaccinated. All other things being equal (they aren’t), were vaccinations of no effect at all, the expected number of cases who have been vaccinated would be 85% and 15% per 100,000 of population on a proportional basis. So if in total there are 2,093 cases per 100,000, 85% is 1779, and 15% is 314. This is not an exact science because there are many other factors which may make one group more or less susceptible to be caught than the other. Hey, I'm not picking on you, I'm just clarifying what is often not well understood by many people including those people reporting and analyzing provided statistics - the concept known as pro rata, which can be googled, but roughly it means to take into consideration the relative proportions. It is quite a useful concept to understand in general.
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@mahgister Lol. You are saying the same thing again. It doesn’t make it any more true. If you as an unvaccinated force the death of someone else when you take up resources that most likely you didn’t need to take up if you were vaccinated. This is how society works, and we have negligence laws, and why people can be criminally liable for their negligence. They choose not do the right thing, and therefore they are liable. Deal with your unethical behavior in some other forum, this is for audio discussions. |
Sorry but you dont understand where this FALSE alternative come from; be vaccinated and be treated or be unvaccinated and not treated... This come from UNSCIENTIFIC forced MASS vaccinations which is INSANE science imposed by hysteria and corporations... Then the alternative you see as rational is pure dementia entertained by the dictatorship of big corporations NOT MEDECINE SCIENCE... Suffice to cite many great scientists who say the same thing as me, as well as THOUSANDS of free doctors around the world, but they are ALL CENSORED and BANNED even Nobel prize winner in medecine like Luc Montagnier, and even the scientist who own the first many patents about mRNA technology, and even the Nobel prize winner who created the PVR technology ... Awake...Or stay with ignorant Neil Young... I apologize to be rude here but.... i am flabbergasted by your way of judging what is "freedom"...
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