Hey maprik, the wavetouch are a very well made speaker and sound big for their size but they are just a little to brite for my taste, but i think if you ran them with a tube pre amp they would be outstanding speakers. I really cant say anything bad about them they are fast and detailed well built and easy to drive. the only reason i got rid of them was because i got the Intuitive Design Gamma Summits for the same price and the summits provide that organic seamless sound i was looking for. |
Have you heard the Reflectors nyaudio98? If so could you tell us your impressions. |
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Hey Jughead,
You never posted a review of the GTs but obviously they weren't keepers. Can you relate your experience here? I'm very curious as you are probably not a "shill" as many people seem to think the positive reviewers are.
Thanks! |
So finally after a lot of trial and error selling and trading I achieved sonic nirvana for me. sold my Parasound a21 amp and p5 pre amp and went with Musical Design t100 amp and the sp1 pre amp. bought two REL t9 subs a Shunyata ps8 line cond Shunyata power cables. Mosaic interconnects and FMS zero speaker cables. the final piece I went with was Intuitive Designs Gamma Summits speakers. these speakers are unreal! soo seamless and pure. I don't even really know how to explain their sound, seamless, organic with a stage that is wide, deep, tall and three dimensional. the sound seems to float. it was explained to me that with the use of carbon fiber nano tube arrays which makes them almost super conductive at room temp and no phase shift is the reason for this. you don't hear individual drivers they just blend, my jaw hits the floor every time I listen. if anyone gets the chance listen to some of the speakers, amps, cables and pre amps that Dale Pitcher designs. then you'll hear what I mean. |
The WAVETOUCH speaker's will be here today, according to the fedex tracker. so I'll give you my first impressions this pm. After_Hrs I like that nickname MAGNA-VOICE, but I also like WHIZZER-CONE! |
"Why complain about that bologna sandwich that they told you was prime rib, until you've eaten it
Does that connect the dots well enough for you? "
It's interesting that the only talk about "complain" ing is from a few that have never heard WAVETOUCH products. That's puts you in camp of those who speak out of their Arses. The only dots connected here are that you still have ZERO basis for delivering an assertion. Bologna served up with animus are the only things to take away from your obvious WAVETOUCH...jealousy...Next |
Sevenshy,
You must be one lonely, disgruntled, sad excuse for a speaker manufacturer to spend so much effort trying to devalue WAVETOUCH AUDIO...
But maybe the word association isn't such a bad one. MagnaVox means MAGNA-VOICE which is exactly what the new GT's are. They sound much larger and more convincingly realistic than any speaker I know of under $5k and perhaps more.
Actually, I think that you've helped give WAVETOUCH AUDIO GT LOUDSPEAKERS a new nickname. Because it's fitting. MAGNA-VOICE!!
People who need to devalue others to feel good about themselves are among the lowest of the low. |
Oh my.... Didn't know that class A topology would do so much magic all by itself... I learn something new every day... I should have known... Would have never sold my old 1966 Braun bookshelvers. G. |
Sevenshy, you may need class A for the Magnavox but probably a lot less for the Wave Touch. I see you spell out Magnavox but not your direct competing brand Wavetouch Audio with it's birch ply, descent drivers, good crossover parts and can't forget the 40 day in home trial!
You are having a real issue with these Wavetouch Audio speakers for some reason. |
Tell you what Jughead, I'll give you a 40 day trial on these Magnavox speakers. The secret is in the amplification. .If you're class A..that alone can make any speaker sound great. Even WT..or Magnavox. |
They are not that bad looking, not kid friendly for sure. I'd like to see some refinement in the whizzer cone design. I'm in a basement so my wife could care less, she just shakes her head and says I thought the Mozart's were the last speakers and what about the other 20 pairs of speakers before these? I just still haven't found what I'm looking for. That's what attracted me to WT the unusual look, 40 day in home and all the bashing about the whizzer cone. bad press sometimes backfires into good press. |
Wavetouch is very very smart offering a 40 day in home trial. The costumer has very little to lose .($50 to $75 bucks maybe) the owner is so sure you will love them, it's like a money back guarantee . Brilliant idea for a new company. I have heard nothing but great praise by users and reviewers.
I think he WT should make models of speakers that are more attractive , thus more people could live with their looks. Many audiophiles use speakers in their living romms with wives that have a say in what can go in. |
But reviews don't sell me on anything, just like stereophile magazine telling what I need and don't need, I don't buy into that magazine either. but they have measurements and cool spec charts and money changing hands to tell me what's good. |
Yeah I did read baza's review, I haven't read a bad review on WT yet. |
Bam214, I heard them at both AXPONA and RMAF. Floored me in a way that previous Salk designs did not. Some real magic there. |
Thanks for pointing out the Wavetouch review. Sounds like a ton of speaker for the money and has an in home trial period. Doesn't get much better than that and it sounds like they really stand behind their work!
Read it and weep Sevenwolfy. |
Jug ,did you read Baza's review?
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/frr.pl?rspkr&1419661158&&&/Wavetouch-Grand-Teton-Gen2-SE-Monitor
He seems to love them! He seems like an experienced audiophile. |
"I wonder what those Magnavox speakers of sevenshy's sound like?"
Probably similar to the WT without the whizzer cones ;-) |
I'll know sat what my first impression of WT is, I'll give them a few weeks to break in and see what happens. I wonder what those Magnavox speakers of sevenshy's sound like? |
Well, not all engineers are created equal. From what I read Duke is a pretty good one though. I've said it elsewhere in different terms; one mark of a good engineer is the ability to understand what is negligible and and what is not in a good design. In the case of audio (which is a less precisely defined science than many of us would like to think), the best designs seem to emerge from talented designers that not only know the technical side inside out but also listen to their designs and are pragmatic enough to know to trust what they hear. Duke is one such designer! |
"02-18-15: Toddnkaya
I'm sure you read the glowing review in the Review section here on Agon ah?
Toddnkaya (Threads | Answers | This Thread)"
No. I don't read reviews. It was just another poster who made some comments. |
I'm sure you read the glowing review in the Review section here on Agon ah? |
"02-18-15: Jughead
ok sevevshy if the wavetouch isn't my bag I'll give those Magnavox speakers of yours a shot."
I was reading a post the other day and one of the posters said they bought a new pair of WT not long ago, and they are very happy with them. I only bring it up because its not one of the big speaker companies that have a lot of info available on them. |
ok sevevshy if the wavetouch isn't my bag I'll give those Magnavox speakers of yours a shot. |
Jughead did you ever take a look at the Nola KO's? |
Roscoe, where did you hear the Salk Exotica 3? Vapor may sound good but the delays in shipping are just brutal from what I have read so far. You may be in good shape if the speaker is already built like a show demo piece.
Either way, Salk hands down has a great track record. |
40 cents? You can't buy these anymore. .These are pretty rare. I realize Magnavox doesn't make $10,000 speakers, but like you said earlier, you have to give them a listen first before you judge them. I don't think there is "the end of the game speaker" for you Jughead, this wave touch gimmicky speaker has sparked your interest but you'll send send them back in 38 days..and when you do consider these Magnavox bookshelf speakers. ..for real. Save yourself $9950..cheap speakers always sound better. Jealous? Really Bam? |
Aedv8sc, Yeah I hear you man. I think it boils down to finding different sound for me and I still have not found it. will the wavetouch be that sound? idk but I have to give them a shot, and if not the search goes on. but I can say this has been the most fun I've had buying speakers. btw sevenshy I'll give you 40 cents for those Magnavox speakers. |
Based on what I have heard in person (in homes and audio shows), I'd put those Exotica 3s on a short list as well. They and Vapor offer extremely good sound for the money. |
End of game to me means either you don't want to upgrade and be on that path of constant up grading or maybe your just tired of it. I developed my ears first by going to and still require some kind of live experience once every 2 weeks of either classical orchestral, chamber or jazz. When I started on that path it was much easier to choose a set of speakers that matched what I was hearing rather than never going to live music and having some "revelation" from the next thing (usually more expensive)because I didn't know what a middle c sounded like, hammer tones on the piano, the bite of a good trumpet or brass section.
In the last 10 years I have enjoyed Vandersteen 3aSigs and Mod 5s. I happen to hear some Von Sweikert VR 3s and liked the live edge I heard so got a pair. About a year ago put them in the HT system and acquired some VR5s for 2 channel only. I like them a lot, they seem to match what I hear on solo, timber and groups of instruments. Voices sound projected with not so much sibilance with an overall presentation representing what I know and what's been recorded. |
Why do I have the feeling that Sevenshy and Wolfy are the same dude and a bit jealous about Jughead buying Wavetouch speakers? Let it go man, your speakers are run of the mill. |
The speakers are like a vintage walnut woodgrain, nothing real special about them. No stands, I just set them on top of my entertainment center. |
Hey Sevenshy what color are those Magnavox speakers? and do you have stands? |
The wavetouch shipped sat am so I should have them by wed. so I'll give them a least 200 hrs to break in, and we'll see what happens? |
If you could stretch another $2k, the Salk Exotica 3's would be head and shoulders above any retail-priced speakers at $10k. |
I got an old pair of magnavox book shelf speakers, mid eighties I believe, that sound just fine. I don't think I gave a dime over $40 for. I can't really tell the difference between those and $10,000 speakers. I'd be willing to part with those if you're interested. |
I got an old pair of magnavox book shelf speakers, mid eighties I believe, that sound just fine. I don't think I gave a dime over $40 for. I can't really tell the difference between those and $10,000 speakers. I'd be willing to part with those if you're interested. |
I've had several pairs of B&W speakers and they are great and very well made speakers, but just not my bag. for me they are too brite and in your face very clinical sounding. and with my VA Mozarts they are very warm and musical and image like crazy! but too laid back and polite. sooo im trying to find that that speaker that's in between the Mozarts and the B&W. GOOD LUCK! RIGHT? |
Duke,
I don't think you should even respond to Onemanwolf.....
He just has two posts here and no reputation.
From the time that rest of us folks have on this forum, we know your achievements. And someone has already suspected Onema.....'s intentions, if you read the complete thread. |
Zd542,
My post was in response to this, posted by After_hrs, in reply to Onemanwolfpack's critique:
"The fact that you are blasting a patent (anyone can look it up) that was issued by a panel of PHD accredited experts in the field shows that you are not close to the expert you claim to be."
My point being, there was no panel of PHD experts evaluating the merits of the device in question. The granting of a patent is not evidence that a device does what it is claimed to do.
Duke |
Audiokinesis,
I understand your last comment, and I have no doubt that you're right, but what was it in reference to? |
Just one more "for the record" comment:
A device does not have to be proven to work, nor convince any PHD panel of experts that it will work, in order to be granted a patent. The criteria are "novelty" (it must be something new) and "non-obviousness" (it has to be something that is not obvious). So I could apply for a patent on an underwater disco strobe as a shark repellant device, and might very well get it, regardless of whether or not it works.
Duke
filed and abandoned several patent applications |
So.... Irrespective of this threads outcome, for all future customers..
Just use Agons speaker search function to generate a list of potential speakers in this price range. Simple as that...
Enough said!! |
I would vote for a pair of B&W 803 Diamonds but I fear your Amp won't do them justice |
Yeah buddy! just got an email from wavetouch, speakers will ship sat, so I should have them sometime next week. let the breast enlargement begin. Yay! |
"02-13-15: Jughead
But the wavetouch will give my wife bigger breast!"
You're missing the whole point Jughead. There's more than one way to use the Wavetouch. Its a very simple, but useful technique. You Wave with one hand to distract her, and you grab with the other. At least, that's how I do it. |
"02-13-15: Mapman
"Anyone who tells you how something is going to sound just by looking at a spec sheet is full of it. "
I would agree with that. However, a good engineer will know how to put those specs to best use in order to meet the goal."
You're right, of course. The point I was trying to make was that there needs to be a blend between the science portion of the design, and the qualities that go beyond the specs. And that the designer not only gets that blend right, but they need some outside feedback as well.
I've been fortunate in that I have several friends that manufacture equipment. I occasionally take part in listening to new designs before they go into production. They always tell me they must get others opinions. Its not optional, because we all have different listening abilities, personal tastes and equipment. To me, doing it this way makes sense, and its also great to see how some of these products are made. |
But the wavetouch will give my wife bigger breast! would a measurement on these speakers make everyone feel better? I'll keep you posted on how big my wife's breasts are getting. |
"Anyone who tells you how something is going to sound just by looking at a spec sheet is full of it. "
I would agree with that. However, a good engineer will know how to put those specs to best use in order to meet the goal. |
