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Which one to choose between two 80K$ tube amps?

There are two interesting 80K$ tube amps on sale at Audiogon.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9jhj0-david-berning-co-211-845-otl-tube

The first one is David Berning OTL design with output of 60 Watts.

it looks beautiful. But I had never used OTL amp yet.

I am curious how it sounds with high efficiency speaker.

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa27ii-jadis-ja800-flagship-tube-amplifier-six-chassis-best-ever-made-nos-new-old-stock-tube

The second one is Jadis JA800 with 6 pieces and 400watts.

I had used JA500  (only 4 pieces with 350 Watts) from 2000 to 2002 to drive B&W Notilus 801 with utmost authority and unbelievable slam.

It was kind of lifetime experience to own this beautiful and overbearing monster.

But I could not use it during summer time in modest size room.

Thus I let it go and got Silbatone 300B SET amp to drive efficient full range speaker.

350 Watt to 8 Watt

If you have money or hit the Jackpot, which one will you go for?




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daveyf
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I own Jadis amps....BUT I would NEVER own the larger models! The 500 or worse, the 800, are going to be heat engines...and work great if you need a space heater and live in a very cold climate! Otherwise, why bother with that kind of heat generation???

I also happen to believe if you own a speaker that requires hundreds of watts to drive...you own the wrong speaker and have not considered the all important amp/speaker synergy. Best to dump the speaker and get a more easily driven model.

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fuzztone
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ZOTL40 Reference Amplifier
jperry
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If you are trying to make a decision like that, you should buy both pair and sell the one you like least
lancelock
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@fuzztone,

I agree the ZOTL40 is spectacular. If you can’t afford 211/845 and I can’t, then the ZOTL40 is the next best thing. If you want more power then get two of them as mono blocks.
oem-wheels
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crazy.. $80k for an amp ?? its cool that you have the money to spend but dang, you got to feel like you're being ripped off.. pop the top off the amp and take a good look at what's in side.. there's probably no more than $3k in parts (and that's being generous).. I believe marketing tricks people into thinking that's ok.. would you feel ok if you walked into a McDonalds and the billed you $200 for a big mac and they rung the guy next to you for $6 ?  are you going to argue yours has the organic thousand island sauce ? maybe you could but I bet you they taste 98% the same.. is those amps you speak of here that much better than a Luxman 900u @ $15k ? anyway ...  I have a can of soda, outer been sterilized, and comes with a straw.. $250.. PM me
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