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Thank you for your kind concern. Due to Accuphase DP Player 570 was in shortage supply then. I bought Estoric K03XD last year. It cost US$11,000. The sound is pretty good. When I play with Accuphase C2850 + A47 + Harbeth super HL 5 (40th), it can produce pleasant and more live like sound after 2 and half hours listening.
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Realize this is an older thread and SACD in focus - but as a side note, I would look for a used Spectral SDR-4000 CD player, either the SV or SL. They are $20K new but I see them used in the $6K-$7K range. If you have a large CD collection, you will be glad you did - it makes standard Redbook CDs sound incredible. I heard one a few years back compared to a full four box dCS SACD stack - same disc, same amp, same speakers and cables - and that single box sounded better to everyone in the room, and I bought the demo unit that same day. To be fair, dCS has likely improved their technology since then, and I had never heard anything better than dCS sound quality up to that point. But given the vast price difference, the Spectral was/is a great value. |
We would buy 2 Rotel cd14 CD players, and a Rotel cd1572 CD player. And search for a couple pio elite dv-79avi, and a dv58 or 59 as well. Still have cash for music and beer. That’s me. 6K is a boatload of money. The Bryston is a wicked player as well, and still have a couple K to buy music or cables. |
Jafant I listened to the Estoric N-05XD on dealer's site together with Brumeister 077 pre, Accuphase A46 and Brumeister speaker B18. The sound of Beggar's Opera (2nd song in CD of the streaming in Harmonica Muti), the guitar is sweet, good shape, project a scale in it's size, detail with air finish. And then, change the N-05xd to Estoric K03xd which said to use the same DA. But the sound is different as you can aware. I make a phone call to the distributor, the engineer staff said that though the DA is the same in structure, but the parts is a bit different and the K03XD is older products. The N05xd is brand new. That makes the difference in sound reproduction. The price of the 2 difference around US$2000. Certainly , I prefer N-05xd sound more. But since I am short of CD player, I might be forced to take CP value into consideration. |
Audio Union is the distributor and service center for CEC in US and Canada. I would suggest the TL2N. https://audio-union.com/ |
I am at a loss here: get an InnuOs Zenith Mk3 for $4000, rip your 200 Cds to the 1MB hard disc and enjoy CD and streaming at superior quality to any CD Player conceivable. And if you feel adventurous get a Qobus subscription costing the equivalent of 1 CD per month and I guarantee you you won‘t buy nor listen to a CD ever again. Buying a Cd player now is the equivalent to investing in 78rpm vinyl. |
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Don't forget the CD 1,10 , their top player! Canor from Slovakia, deserve better recognition. If curious have a look at that cool demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK225xCHIvE&t=605s |
Maybe the DP-560 is more in line with the rest of your gear. Some people claim Accuphase work best together, if that's true your one step away, synergy is very important. No experience comparing the two players, possible the shop owner is correct, the price difference is quite big! They're introducing the DP-570 now so might get a deal on an used DP-560... |
Save yourself from the high cost of diminishing returns on the dollar I finally found a review of the Technics SLG 700 CD/SACD/Network player, TRUE BALANCED @ $2999 in the new HiFPig https://hifipig.com/technics-sl-g700-network-cd-and-sacd-player/ hth |
Had the Luxman D-06 and wasn’t happy with it: to “plat”, not very musical. For me the best is CEC (with separate dac) and I do like the Ear cd-player by de Paravicini ( with Telefunken tubes). 20 y. ago: I had the Sphinx Project 32 :an amazing player! My next , I hope Wavac: I have still the MD 805m. (Monoblocks)Or the Metronome technologie. |
Another vote for the Yammy CD-S2100. It seldom fails to elicit the "I can't believe that's digital!" response from my analog-loving audiophile guests. At $3 grand, I absolutely believe it's the sweet spot for price and performance. It boasts an excellent DAC and plays SACDs wonderfully, should the OP eventually see the light in that regard. Enjoy the tunes. |
What you're listening to in a CD player is the DAC, not the transport. The CD reader is just what you get from a $20 CDROM drive. Really. It's the DAC you're listening to. I run a Tascam CD player because it's a piece of pro gear, and being pro, is more durable and reliable than consumer stuff. I run an optical line from it to my DAC. The sonics from the CD player are identical to the same track being played back from my laptop digital files. But if you've really got $6k burning a hole in your pocket, then you're the kind of guy this industry loves. |
No... no... no... Don’t waste your money on any CD Player - none of which provide the sound quality of one of the better R2R DAC’s with a good CD transport. There is no CD player that comes close to the sound quality of the good R2R DAC’s - none of which will cost you more than about $2500, if that. Here’s a thread, which identifies the best / better ones (though, the Schitt Yggdrasil Analog 2 compares quite favorably to most of these in this thread). https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/some-dacs-i-am-considering-any-thoughts And... you can always start ripping your CD's to FLAC files on a good server (Bryston BDP 3, etc.) to make access to your music a very convenient exeperience! |
If Classical is your aim, there is no CD player I would take, at any price, over the Ensemble Dirondo. I heard it at Munich and it really made magic. http://ensembleexperience.com/dirondo-drive/ |
Why not look for a used Esoteric SACD player. I use a K-05 and love it. I don't have many SACDs, but it plays regular CDs fantastically! You will be happy with the fit and finish, I promise. Else, I would just go with a Marantz transport or something like that to a good DAC like others have suggested. I like the PS Audio DirectStream DAC, which you can find used for around $3500. |
If you are committed to getting a CDP look Brands and Models that have a VRDS (Very Rigid Disc Clamping System) Transport and Sony KSS Laser. VRDS was developed by TEAC and is used by the worlds finest CD players like Wadia, Krell, Spectral, DCS, Esoteric, Tascam, and TEAC. Top of line: full metal, Middle one: metal-carbon composite hybrid Cheap one : full plastic. I would say that Esoteric is your best bet for your budget Check out - just above your budget https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa7ib2-esoteric-k01-cd-sacd-player-dac-cd-sacd-players NEO was the best VRDS ever produced https://www.esoteric.jp/en/technology/vrds_neo DCS Vivaldi One https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/products/vivaldi-one/ http://www.theaudiobeat.com/highend2017/highend2017_dcs.htm Good luck |