Do you prefer tall speakers

I have an original set of VR-4s.  Great speakers for the money.  My son will end up with mine. 

Does the Gen II have an adjustable rear tweeter?  You can turn that down if they seem a little bright.

My current speakers aren't as big and heavy, but the height is similar. 

I think speaker height is relative to room height and listening position.  I have two systems.  Downstairs is my reference and I sit on a couch 8 feet from my gear.  The ceiling is 7 feet.  Here, a speaker can be too tall.  Upstairs, I have a great second system in a family room with cathedral ceilings open to the kitchen / eat in area.  My upstairs speakers are Revel Salon 2's, significantly taller than downstairs.  They fill the area both in height of soundstage and pressurize the entire area.

I liked the Salon 2s so much I took them downstairs to listen.  The height was too much, with loss of soundstage and imaging from my seated position.  But they are awesome in the taller room and allow me to listen from the kitchen or island.

sls883 Hi yes I played with the rear tweeter.  Biggest factor is recalibrating my brain for the new sound I think.  Lucky son!  Hopefully it will introduce his young friends to real audio.

fastfreight  My last home allowed me to crank my 2000s past the point of local listenability while I did things else where.  I loved to set those monsters free and Revel (yes) in the sheer dynamics of the sound.

I prefer tall speakers.

@fastfreight 

Like yourself, I own (my reference speakers) a pair of absolutely phenomenal Revel Salon 2 speakers.  I have my Salon 2s in a decent size room which has a 9 foot ceiling (which is a little taller than average).  In my room, the tallish Salon 2s work extremely well.  In fact, the Salon 2s in my room perform so amazingly well, I don't think I'll ever let them go.  Happy listening.              

My wife is short. She likes speakers that are not taller than she is. I like my wife. Ergo, I like short speakers.

Height and Base structure do play into what you hear...

I had my Raven Audio Corvus on Heavy Steel stands and thought they sounded nice...Was I wrong.. I made some wooden stands with Granite Base and Granite Top plate and my wife thought I was nuts on how I reacted ..Top of speaker is 54 inches with center of my speakers at ears height...Just receiving my Raven Audio Reflection months ago I am so happy with how this equipment has come together for the music I play...Enjoy Your Music

I'll take tall speakers over close talkers any day.  

TF 2000s use the WmtmW arrangement as well as an actual transmission line vs. the multi density stuffing line approach of the VA speakers.  The impression of soundstage height is due in part to the crossover points and the mid tweeter mid height in relation to the listener's ears.  Lots of examples of this layout exist and some are classics while others are modern.   Below are some Dunlavy SC-Vs.  

The TF 2000s are special.  I owned a total of 3 pair back in the early Aughts.   Wish I had kept at least one pair.   At least he SC-Vs are too heavy for my old butt to move so they are staying.

I definitely prefer tall speakers--at least 5 ft. tall.  They reproduce soundstage height better than shorter speakers, and once you get accustomed to that, it's hard to go back to shorter speakers, regardless of what other charms they may have.

If they have a rich enough bass response, shorter speakers can be placed on stands to achieve good soundstage height, but I'd prefer to go with floorstanders that are 5' tall or more by themselves.

Do you prefer tall speakers

My higher or preference is self preservation WAF, so no for current shared space.

If I have a separate audio space/room, then preference is simply sonics so height not the deciding factor.

@wrm57 Good call; domestic bliss is overlooked when it comes to your & her tastes... ;)

@asvjerry , she puts up with 4 systems and a near-constant barrage of weird-ass jazz, so it’s the least I can do! 😄 

@meadowman 

I agree with your assessment of the 2000s.  It's always nice to hear(yes) another opinion on them as they are so rare.  I will never sell mine for sure!  It's like they are full of an infinite amount of butterflies that flap in concert (can't help myself..) to produce the thunderous lows, wonder mids and exquisite highs.

@harleyujoe Definitely considering stands for the VR4s.  Have some very crafty friends I can enlist to do them justice.  Still trying to come up with a great amp in my budget.  Looking at the Hafler 9500 and NAD 2600.  Love to have a Halcro DM-38 on looks alone, never mind performance.  Coolest looking amp EVER. One here on CL but one 0 out of my price range ;)

@wrm57 Sounds like a 'keeper' for sure.....esp. when she's adapted to speakers as a form of 'furniture'....

Subs are easy, since they can be glossed off as 'coffee tables'.

Under certain selections, they can 'provide an interesting variant as a foot massage device...

Yeah, right...*L*

I own Dunlavy SC-V, so tall speakers it is. Carver Amazing > B&W 802 S3 > Dunlavy SC-III > Dunlavy SC-IV > Dunlavy SC-V. 

For those of you with height challenged wives, buy them high heels.

Win, win.  Ideas like this is why I make the big bucks.

WAF compliance = Lackluster sound

For 2 channel, ~6ft is a good height, eg, Tekton Moab.

Doesn't quite matter on a multichannel rig, if you have height channels.

I definitely prefer tall speakers--at least 5 ft. tall.  They reproduce soundstage height better than shorter speakers, and once you get accustomed to that, it's hard to go back to shorter speakers, regardless of what other charms they may have.
 

+1 

@guscreek , it looks to me like the tweeter height of the Timeframe 2000 is ballpark 35 inches, whereas the tweeter height of the VR4 Gen2 looks like it is probably in the ballpark of 40 inches. 

So based on your descriptions, I'm guessing that perceived soundstage height is down around the midrange driver for the VR4 Gen2... is this correct?  Or am I missing something?

Thanks!

@audiokinesis 

Hi no you are correct but even having a woofer at the top of the array seems to add even further to the tall soundstage.  Wave guide tweeter on 2000s 42" up.    Until I put the VRs on stands it is probably not a fair comparison.  Surprised the thread is still active.

@swede58 Yes as I am discovering.  I really think a top woofer lends a sound I prefer.