Interesting Power Cable Experience

No surprise here...might diminish over time/bloat.

Thanks. Interesting. That is a new one on me, too much bass. Maybe it will calm down with time.

I had a similar experience with a Sophia baby amp.  13 lbs and only 8 watts per channel.  I thought a 14 awg power cord would be plenty.   Bass was poor.  

A friend suggested a heavier power cord so I did and bass was immediate and strong.  This made me a strong believer in a super heavy power cord for all amps, no matter how small.

Jerry

Yea, that makes sense for an amp Jerry, but the power cord change was for the cd player. The vintage Marantz 1060 integrated has a captive power cord.

Fairy dust 

"Fairy dust"

- One of your better posts, keeping the word count down, thanks.

New policy ‘simple’ thread warrants a simpler post, all in fun.

Cheers 

hey @1971gto455ho this is an audio discussion take your "fairy dust" elsewhere. 

Be nice everyone has differing opinions..

Hey 1971ho, I noticed you have yet to start a discussion, only responding mostly sarcastically to others’ posts. How about you start your own thread "all in fun" you know. It should be a hoot, don’t you think?

Might be a hoot maybe even factual, certainly different at the least. Cable, cable cable rest in peace. There must be more to an audio format than plugging in one’s junk ya think ? 

Yep, pointing to your "facts" in an attempt to debunk others that have actually done the experiment. That's going to be a tough one here, good luck.

@dill

"The empty vessel makes the loudest sound."

Plato

@dill yeah, I see your point.  Clearly the power supply in this CD player is needy.

@1971gto455ho 

The Premium Power Cable Survey is still active for a few more days, so you can make your opinion heard.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HC8LFW6

Enjoy.

I wish it wasn’t true…but definitely not a placebo effect (and so infuriating when others decide this to be the case) I’ve had 12-14 gauge $100 cables beat out by well built/shielded/terminated 10 gauge $50 cables in this way. The most discernible and palpable change for preamps and amps is the increase in response and low mid/bass weight (in my case). More stage depth too. “Can’t be tue” I told myself…. back and forth I went, each time a big grin on my face while having to readjust my sub to accommodate this difference. Can be fun, as long as one does not let this go out of hand? I do believe in the differences, but also believe our ears adjust over time (so always the danger of chasing the rabbit).

I think I made a thread with literally the same title as this one 🤣

Why yes you did. Your thread, also includes sarcastic remarks from a couple of posters that have also graced my thread with their conjecture, based on opinion and not actual experimentation with cords. Same old, same old tired rhetoric. All that have done the experiment can enjoy the results ....

@dill I am quite glad I started experimenting with power cables. Quite easily the cheapest improvement to the system I've ever had. On par with a center rug. 

If you're interested enough, put the other cable back on to make sure. Take a measurement with both cables, see what the difference is in real numbers. "Too much" isn’t telling us much. Is it an extra 3dB? 6dB? At what frequencies? I noticed a sound difference with two different amps on the same speakers. I was totally surprised to perceive the difference so I took sweeps with both amps, speaker and mic. in the same position, and volume adjusted. Sure enough, the two amps caused a different frequency response. What surprised me even more was that the difference wasn’t what I was expecting. The amp I suspected of having rolled off high frequencies actually had more output above 7k. It had slightly less in the range between about 2K and 7K, and I was perceiving that as "rolled off" highs.

I think one reason us measurement people get caught up in accusing the "subjective" camp of imagining things is that we jump to conclusions that they are claiming to hear things that are far below the threshold of human perception because we assume that their equipment is all operating to some theoretical test bench standard when it in fact may not be. I think that often if a direct measurement of the sound off their speakers is made before and after an equipment change that caused a perceived change in sound quality, a difference will show up that is known to be in the audible range.

"If you’re interested enough, put the other cable back on to make sure."

- Have done that many times. Been into high-end audio for 40 years and have listened to scores of cables of all makes, shapes & sizes. I know what to listen for, the results are not always good and with all due respect, I don’t feel a need to prove it to you or anyone else. Only ones ears can decide, not measurements. If an amp sounds great and measures like crap, I don’t care. If an amp measures great and sounds like crap I won’t use it. It's only about how it sounds to me.

@dill I've done it too. At one point I only had 1 power cable. The issue was it sounded much better on the DAC than it was on the amp. So there were occasions where I purposely left said upgraded cable on the amp with the intention of forgetting about it. I intended to forget about cables, but the bad sound was just irritating and the cable had to go back into the DAC. I now have 2 cables and there's no more battle. 

While I understand why certain people can't hear differences between cables, and this can be a combination of a number of things. All of which can contribute significantly to the final result. As for me, cables have been a substantial upgrade for pennies. 

2 of the biggest bangs for the buck are the Anticables Level 3 power cord and Signal Cables Magic Power Cord.  You can hear the improvement immediately to whatever you use it on!  Of course you will need to hook it up to your system with actual speakers and stuff but …yeah.

@dave_b "2 of the biggest bangs for the buck are the Anticables Level 3 power cord and Signal Cables Magic Power Cord. You can hear the improvement immediately” new cables vs what “old"?

Obviously stock power cords, but they are competitive with my Transparent Reference and MIT EVO Reference pc’s.