"What gives?"
People need money? |
I just noticed there about seven Salon 2s for sale right now at very attractive prices. What gives? |
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I was more meaning that I can put the speakers where I want. I am hoping it can still look normal and sound good.
Sorry Bob, sounds like I struck a nerve. Needless to say I think this room sounds better, a lot better than my dedicated 15x19x9 room with trap and treatments all over it. It's just tough to get the bass right and I'm starting to think it has more to do with the room than the gear.
Thanks for the input. I'm thinking I'll go Salons. I'll follow up after I get them.
Ryan |
I've owned the Studio 2's since last Fall and they're excellent loudspeakers...but I am wishing I bought the Salons for that ultimate bass extension. I have no complaints about mids and highs at all. My room is even larger than yours at around 30 x 35 x 14, loft. Still the Studio's play well in the room. Hey, now that I think of it, you could buy mine and I'll go grab a pair of Salons! |
Re your bass. You don't need tube traps "all over the room".
Some carefully placed furniture & decor can make a world of difference. Most rooms I see have far to little furniture in them. Furniture is a friend -ni=ot a foe- in getting good sound from a room. |
Ejlif said, "I can pretty much do what I want in this room, but it is my living room so I don't want tube traps and treatments all over it."
Well they could use that statement in the Audiophile dictionary .... look under oxymoron.
And yet you wonder why you cannot get good bass in the room?
Bob |
Psacanli wrote: Ejlif, Shadorne has a good point mentioning the use of separate sub bass with the Studio; however, in my opinion, because "most" bass problems can be addressed with room treatment ...." That is true but low bass problems are soluble with very large elements and many find these unacceptable.
Kal |
If you do consider the Studio/subs options please advise us of your projected costs analysis, all factors in. It will be interesting. |
Ejlif, Shadorne has a good point mentioning the use of separate sub bass with the Studio; however, in my opinion, because "most" bass problems can be addressed with room treatment I recommend going with the Salons.
You will receive the benefit of all the efforts Revel could make to provide a beautifully integrated full range speaker. IMHO,it will be "impossible" for you to come anywhere close to what they have achieved by buying a sub--different amps in the sub, different cables/lengths, an additional crossover, and positioning will not address that there is a second location for low bass, you will not match the seamless integration of the single Salons. Go for the gold-Salons; option 2 is not even close. Happy listening! |
Thanks guys for all the responses. |
Hi, I have heard both, and if you can swing it I would go for the salons , they have fuller midbass than the studios, and revel will tell you the same thing. if you get the studios, go with shandorns advice and get a good sub to go with it. the are both very good speakers. good luck, chrissain. |
on a suspended wood floor the lighter speaker will work better, go for the studios... |
FWIW - I think you are on the right track if you are having bass problems and desire something "tighter" sounding. The VS speakers are reknowned for their impressive bass but that is not always great if you can't discern the mid bass and lower midrange clearly in your room. I'd go with a sealed sub - again, I'm simply assuming you want punchy bass rather than impressive high SPL resonance. |
My hunch is that the midbass problems you experienced with the VS speaker is more room related than speaker related. I would hate for you to go buy a brandy new pair of Salon 2s, only to find they have the same problem.
I'd say go for either, but with the assumption that you will somehow need to address the room. This could in involve changing speaker location, changing chair location, adding and integrating a subwoofer, experimenting with room treatments, or any combination of the above. |
I've heard both the Studio and Salon... but not the II versions. For the $$$, if Revel had to be it, I'd go with Studios... although honestly, I wasn't impressed with either, given their price points at the time. They were running SS throughout, and just sounded dry.. very crisp and resolute, but dry.
Apperance too wasn't my cup of tea, although you sure
won't lose them in a parking lot. They are definitely unique in that regard.
Good luck. |
Ryan,
These are both very good speakers. My suggestion and it is only a suggestion - would be to go for the studio and add a good quality sub. This will best arm yourself to tackle the bass problems in your room which may require some greater freedom with placement. Two cents. |
