It's almost like poll, but certainly more fun


If you had Rolex 2-tone Daytona, would you trade it for an audio component, system or would rather not trade it?

For me, personally, I'd still be in research of such component (far a lot easier task vs. researching a system) that will be equal or higher value and keep value same or better... It's darn HARD to look there for me and maybe I'd go to Guitar Avenue and find valuable components there.

You may get different or even better idea

DISCLAIMER:

I am not trying to trade any Rolex Daytona, I just want discharged chat here!

czarivey

Who needs a watch when a phone is far more useful?  A Rolex is just a social class signifier to alert others that you are a person of means.

Too bad that the $80K DarTZeel NHB - 18NS preamp can't be worn on the wrist to show what a bad-ass dude you are! That's what expensive hifi components are - social signifiers to show that you belong to the in-crowd!

Rather than a person of taste.

A Rolex is just a social class signifier to alert others that you are a person of means.

It is a signifier only to idiots, like so many other good material things. Rolex is the watch to take anywhere where you need a reliable time showing piece.

 

 

For whoever it’s signifier, For whoever it’s a fine time piece.

For me it’s a lot smaller than paper value for it if anyone understands what I mean.

To make my point even deeper, I've been working at the bank for over dozen of years...

It is better to buy a real significant book with a new insight than a Rolex...I will be ashamed to own one as i will be ashamed to own any "flashy" deLuxe object ... Why not the first corvette model? Or better a Bugatti 1934 ?

i just can suggest two completely different life changing books anyway , one about mammals and the other about the mathematics of artificial consciousness...

I can be a "snob" too...And i want to see if you had curiosity out of Rolex...

😊😉

It seems most people think they had see and know what a mammal is and they dont give a damn about artificial consciousness ... They all want a Rolex ...But perhaps not "most" only some...

This "thread" is the right place to describe these two books , amazing life changer, for anyone ready to read them for sure... 😁

If you prefer i can recommend a changing life book about sounds....Not a recipe book a fundamental disturbing deep book...

I only buy books and music...No Rolex...

 

 

@maghister,

As soon as I got ca$h, I buy...

I do buy musical artifacts. I prefer for instance Rolex or Patek instead of cash. Sometimes I like diamonds and certainly do like firearms, not because of their violent nature, but because of their overall value.

i understand you for sure even if i dont do it myself...

And i apologize for my "snubbish intellectual " post and as usual my too serious mood in your humorous thread.....😁

I was too  happy to take the occasion to talk "books"... 😊

 

 

@maghister,

As soon as I got ca$h, I buy...

I do buy musical artifacts. I prefer for instance Rolex or Patek instead of cash. Sometimes I like diamonds and certainly do like firearms, not because of their violent nature, but because of their overall value.

 

A Timex will tell you the time just as well as a Rolex but perspective matters. If I were a watch collector instead of an audiophile ,I would undoubtedly stick with the watch. If I just considered it a piece of timekeeping jewelry, I would sell it to get something more practical to me.

Disregarding personal likes and obsessions, IMHO, a two tone daytona will hold its value better. Also, depending on the exact model, and its particular provenance, the daytona will appreciate more and more quickly than most if not all stereo components. In general, again IMHO, stereo components, like most cars, are depreciating assets.  There are tricks and procedures, though, hence the hobby.

To stick on the Thread matter, i only buy pocket watch because i cannot put anything around my wrist, it annoy me...😁

And i buy the best value : chinese 1 bucks battery pocket watch from aliexpress...I stick one on my bike and i put another in my pocket...😁

Watch as dac are sometimes very overpriced....

The only watchs i really like are hourglass models...

They can be more expansive than rolex...😊

One hourglass from the Medicis or from Leonardo Da Vinci for example...

To see time flowing we need an hourglass...I prefer one hour duration hourglass then big one...

https://www.amazon.ca/Hourglass-timers-White-Black-Frame/dp/B06X9CGGCW/ref=asc_df_B06X9CGGCW/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=578910290399&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16379733334093763673&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9000325&hvtargid=pla-414225150917&th=1

An hourglass is to a watch what the world is to a book...

We read the book of the world without knowing that it is the only book we are in and reading it at the same times...

We dont look at a number indicating an abstract hour with an hourglass as with a watch , we flow ourself with time, knowing that we can also "stop" time by reversing the hourglass with an act of free will... Then time  may come back to his source...

Time become a superstition as the world itself become an idolatry if we forget that we read them as we wish it at the end ...

 

 

«The fact that my wife wait for me for dinner is not the result of any superstition but certainly result from some form of well placed idolatry»-- Groucho Marx 🤓

@mahgister 

I don't think I'm onto exchanging Rolex Daytona with an hourglass even if it's Faberge-vintage, but if you have in mind the one that can bring back time... hmmm... maybe I'll finally agree to exchange.

😉😊

 

A great french scholar wrote a book called "the flame of a candle " Gaston Bachelard...

I think that the "flame of candle " is even better that an hourglass to go out of time  and flow with it...

Then a candlestick can help us to reach immortality consciousness...

@mahgister

I don’t think I’m onto exchanging Rolex Daytona with an hourglass even if it’s Faberge-vintage, but if you have in mind the one that can bring back time... hmmm... maybe I’ll finally agree to exchange.

 
 

 

 

Maan sometimes I think you are Vertinsky who met Count Dracula!

Please fill out the following questionarie:

1. Did you try to bite someone and see if the bite turned one to be immortal?

2. Do you see your mirror reflection?

If you’ve answered YES to any of the two questions, you’re the one -- congrats on immortality bonus. 

 

Hello @mahgister,

Yes my good friend! Candles are positively absolutely hands down without doubt a requirement. *Accent essential lighting* at perhaps the finest of “midnight” hour listening sessions certainly is a must. LED’s … well, personally believe they’re not meant to be masked over and or EGR Delete modification’s performed for the sake of distracting a potential listener. The more blue & green Light Emitting Diodes designed specifically as a trade mark ““cosmetically speaking of course, in theory”” may hold a smidgen of mass appeal. Again (perhaps) Harvest Blue / Gather Green.

Amber though & for whatever reason has this un-canning ability of breaking down entree doors with ease, finding angles effortlessly …. Four hinge Five & two dead bolts, no problema ;-)

I think so....Music is better with candles or at least Himalayan salt lamp...No watches survey when listening...

My best to you

Hello @mahgister,

Yes my good friend! Candles are positively absolutely hands down without doubt a requirement.

I had bitten only my wife one time but she come from Medusa daughters lineage and i was transformed in some living stone... I bit no more...Nobody ever died anyway save vampires... 😊

I apologize and will stay quiet to not disturb your thread... 😁

Maan sometimes I think you are Vertinsky who met Count Dracula!

Please fill out the following questionarie:

1. Did you try to bite someone and see if the bite turned one to be immortal?

2. Do you see your mirror reflection?

If you’ve answered YES to any of the two questions, you’re the one -- congrats on immortality bonus.

Watches are cool, but unfortunately have gone the way of the phonebook, typewriters, and the CRT television.

I do not have a Rolex 2-tone Daytona, but I do have a nice automatic watch and send it in every few years for a $300 cleaning, etc. I seldom wear it except every once in a while to some fancy shindig, or to reminisce. If I were a scuba diver, I might wear it more often. I would not sell or trade it, certainly not for stereo stuff or even bike parts, because it was a gift from loved ones for a significant event. It is rugged, keeps time just fine, and I used to wear it every day but now I have a phone, which works great for telling time, and as a stopwatch, and for other things.

An Apple watch is a phone you can wear on your wrist so I do not consider that a watch, not like the Daytona is a watch. Same for a Garmin watch, which is a GPS that sporting people wear on their wrists. I have no inclination to wear a phone, or a GPS, on my wrist. My phone works just fine as a phone, among other things, and the GPS I use on my bike works fine for GPS-type functions, and a bevy of other stuff, including interfacing with the radar. As a result, I run around without watches or jewelry and, given the clothes I mostly wear, my wife would probably tell you people mistake me for a pauper.

@czarivey,

Rolex is slightly a tad rich for this man’s blood. That type of capital would be better allocated in the world I / we live in and in order of sequence … Music, Stereo, & Garage Instruments.

By chance do Grandfather clocks and or a wall mounted version fit the original post?

@mitch2 - Expensive watches are basically jewelry; they're not there purely for the telling of time; they make a statement, so I don't think they're going away anytime soon. . 

In a heart beat unless it was of sentimental value like my Omega Speedmaster is. 

@larsman - I agree they have become more like jewelry and I know some still wear them regularly, just like suits and ties, but times have indeed changed thanks to computers and Covid. I used to wear ties 3-4 times/week and I cannot remember the last time I wore one - I bet only a few times since my daughter was married in Nov ’19. Maybe I will get my watch out and wear it tomorrow. Anyone want to buy some nice ties?

@mitch2 - yeah, I know what you mean about ties; I don't know if I'd remember how to tie one! I used to have some nice Jerry Garcia ones, though... 

I don't wear mine normally and worn them only few times, but do shake the automatic movement every so often.

I do however normally wear daily Swiss Army Ambassador ($6...700 when new) that does have sentimental value. That one had stopped the minute I've received the final call from hospital about my father...

 

Sad. Our Speedmaster was my fathers and he passed 10 years ago. I miss him everyday.

That one had stopped the minute I’ve received the final call from hospital about my father...

@jeffrey125 I feel you pain  my dad passed away 42 years ago when I was just a kid.  I look up and thank him everyday for living and loving me!

I won't trade my Rolex.  And it's NOT a Daytona.  But I know a racer that has one.

czarivey, I hear you.

I don’t have Rolex but if I ever really need it I will. Explorer model.

I’m a watch geek and collect whatever I find to be interesting and a good value. All automatics. A new Rolex currently requires a long wait if ordering one, and they’re very expensive these days. Interestingly they produce around a million watches a year with one of the least expensive men’s models still around 8 grand or so. Do the math. Pateks are mostly pretty ugly to me (a nice chronometer came out a couple of years ago, almost as expensive as a new Rolex Dytona) but great history anyway. Chronometers (I have a few designated as such) generally do keep better time it seems. I also have great sounding audio gear, none of which is particularly expensive. And yeah, generally nobody cares about that, and rarely do I meet another watch collector.

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I have my cell to annoy me with the daily drudge of time.

I cannot 'make time', regardless of how often or one demands I should.

I am like anyone else, another trapped in the amber that inexorably hardens about one, eventually rendering how it was spent meaningless.

Forgotten in a short interval except by the few who have the same fate, lost in the millennia, that which erases all....Me, you, everyone and everything you love, hate,  know of, clueless of....

History vagues; becomes a story, a myth, a rumour, a tale told by an idiot around the dying fire...

The star explodes, the planet bbq'd......orbits decay, infinity wins, but only for it's while...

 

...and I'm supposed to be impressed or awed of a watch.

I'll agree. it's nice.

The Armani suit? Ditto...

The SOTA x120% audio items? Yup, kewl.... sure that it sounds absolutely Wonderful.

I'll likely never have the opportunity for the experience of the pleasure.

Nor will you have to suffer through what I enjoy, far be it from SOTA....

...and the current space it's in?

Atrocious....*LOL*

"One runs what ones' brung..."

...and there's a certain level of satisfaction in that.

I wish y'alls' yours....

J

"Please don't look my way

when you see me on the street,

we will still be strangers when we meet...."

Personally I never understood the whole expensive watch thing. I just need a reliable analog time piece on my wrist. I need to impress no one. But to each his own.

I must say that between my speakers playing music i listen the news and there is only one hour indicated on my watch: midnight exactly...

The only watch i want  by the way is the miniaturized Antikythera Mechanism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTsCx0E7YkA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k396J-slHaU

A rolex is too cheap for me and way less expansive and the hour indicated by any watch will be the same on earth really soon it seems...😊

This mechanism discovery changed history and give us a snippet about our own past ignorance... And a glimpse in some Archimedes genius or in some of his disciples...

 

 

 

Just saw a Patek for 700k!! I’d sell it in a hot minute. That money would be better spent elsewhere. 

@inna I don't discriminate models at all

The one I have right now I got on good situation and deal. Another similar one comes in, I'll get it Whether it will be Patek or Frank Mueller. I don't like dollars or banks anymore

IMHO there's nothing basically flawed with the concept of owning something that represents one of the best examples of human technical competance and art.  Having a practical purpose (telling you what time it is) and having an element of portability (you can take it with you almost anywhere) reinforces the "logic" behind owning a high end timepiece.  

Some of us reach retirement age with the prospect of "this, AND this", where the selection of material things and indulgences is without compromise.  Most mortals arrive at that threshold with the more common "this, OR this" where were presented with (sometimes agonizing) choices between who, what, when, where, and why.  We had to put down a beautiful creature a few months back.  I would have traded a $70k hot rod in the garage in the blink of an eye to get a "warranty extension" on this little guy. 

It's not just what we enjoy that matters.  It's our ability TO enjoy it.  If your hearing is still intact, go ahead and throw some money at really good hifi gear, and don't look back (as long as it sounds better).  I have a "practice pole" stored horizontally in my garage.  It's a good tool to develop your pole vaulting skills. Being a dinged up 73-year-old is not compatible with senior track and field.  But, it looks cool in my garage, next to the empty Old Engine Oil beer bottle.  It makes me (and others) smile. It's not for sale.

I'll close with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsmHXCKQzXE

 

 

@waytoomuchstuff 

It's not what I enjoy matters. It's my way of securing funds.

No I do not secure funds onto audio equipment and therefore posted some query to see what's reasonable to add as an audio component that will be equivalent to holding value of Rolex.

I was always literally DREAMING of owning Marantz Model 9 amp. That one is kinda Rolex in audio.

@czarivey 

"I was always literally DREAMING of owning Marantz Model 9 amp. That one is kinda Rolex in audio."

+1

I find that my iPhone 12 is a sufficient time keeper. I have no idea what that Rolex is worth, but I would sell it in a hot minute. If it isn't worth what a Volvo V90 wagon costs, I guess a new 75" OLED and a short trip to CA would be great.

@motown-l I find my iPhone isn’t sufficient, because I prefer to keep it away from me if I’m not on the road. I also prefer to wear my watch while I sleep and keep my iPhone far away from me due to increased levels of radiation. I don’t even take my phone to shopping or even restaurant for dinner. The less exposure, the more life. Ez formula to remember. Wearing circular metal or magnet around wrist is healthy while carrying or wearing cell-phone or AppleWatch on the wrist isn’t. As to 75" OLED I don't even need it for free. Have a couple that hadn't been turned on since the time they were purchased. 

65" unit I’ll let go $200. I doubt it's going to be OLED, but definitely LED of 2019 Phillips model.

A dust collector indeed. 

Well I hate wearing a watch I was stoked to learn cell phones told time so I would definitely trade it. Not sure what one is worth however.

I like mechanical things, audio stuff especially because it affords me opportunity to explore things which are both mechanical and electrical. Looks are great and important but real value is my thing. Rolex doesn’t hit my value button. I have 2 different dive watches, both compact, one less so. One is a chronometer, one not, but both keep excellent time. The chrono, on a winder, loses maybe a minute every 3 to 4 months. The other maybe a minute per month on the wrist. Needless to say, I’d sell the Rolex, it just ain’t that pretty (to me).

I work the same way with audio stuff as well as cars. High quality but ’value’ floats my boat (which I no longer have). :-)