Let’s try this again
Just so you know I am an audio enthusiast with no affiliation or connection to the manufacturer. I am not paid. I have never met Bob Grost. I do like what I hear using his cables. I am sharing my experience with them. Isn’t that what these forums are all about? I have a similar love for my Backert Labs preamp or Linear Tube Audio products. I believe my Coda #16 Amp is the best SS amp made.
the only other question I have is what type of wire are they using because if they're still using ofc junk then it's still not going to be better no matter what they do to it then OCC single crystal wire because it still has fractures in The wire which impedes the signal OCC single Crystal has zero fractures in The wire.
What are you trying to do get banned or censored again ?
that is my take on it for I have had several topics I like or recommend on there
and they have been removed .I wrote to Robert ,he is not very receptive to my questions Why ? His website has very little information and or pictures of the technologies and what makes them different or special .myself and others I have spoken too have said the same thing li owned a Audio store for 10 years and any prospective buyer does want to know about the product they are buying ,you can pass That on , they seem interesting li bought one of his first cables in around 2005 .i look forwards to seeing more , maybe he will email me back , I sent 2-3 previously.
I'm curious about Cerious cables, but it is kind of strange that their website have hardly any pictures. Maybe I did not search hard enough?
I am looking at their speaker cables, but there is only one small picture and nothing to click on to show more. It is not really helpful for interest buyers.
Wonder if any others feel the same.
You aren’t looking at the correct cables. The ones we are talking about are not officially out yet. A pair of RCA 1m interconnects are like twenty four xx dollars and XLR’s are about twenty eight xx a pair.
Hi Bob from Cerious!
Never have your pregnant daughter as your webmaster. She is working away on getting the lit and prices up on our website. She is a perfectionist, though, and I cannot get her to realize that we need something simple like a thumbnail with a link to the price sheet. Hopefully today! In the mean time if you hit our contact button I will forward you our complete Lit and Prices.
Now connections. I have strong connections to my customers. I value them and develop relationships over time. I do not pay them to post on forums or write posts for them to "place" online. The whole idea of forums is the organic exchange of ideas run by the users themselves. period.
Here it would be easy for me to post our prices but am now gun shy about having the whole thing yanked again. I will say that after adding up what it costs to produce Graphene Lumniscate I was a little taken aback. My wife suggested we go on the Cable Company site and look at what other companies are charging. WOW! We are the introductory model for most other companies price wise. At Cerious, I have never priced my gear by what it compares to, justifying 4x the price. I WILL never price what I sell this way. Everything I sell is based on what it costs to make and a FAIR markup that allows me to eat and live.
I will continue to bug my daughter and in the mean time write me and I will get you the information, often within hours. Patience Grasshopper...
Thank you again to all my customers and to even the negative voices. Freedom is a wonderful thing...
OK my daughter rocks! The .pdf for Lit and prices are up on the website. Hey I just figured out that a 5 foot set of Graphene Lumniscate speaker cable costs the same as 18" speaker jumpers from the other Graphene company. Amazing...
A note to Audioman. Less emails with less questions and I will be more receptive. I love you but I do not have time for a 20 hour lecture on audio design...
Hugs to everybody and many wishes for great sound...
"You cannot be Cerious!"
Oh...but I am...
Yes I realize that the website is not too slick. Working on this, too...I was waiting for the world to come back to sanity before doing major updates...I hope we can all agree we are not there yet...but will update anyway...
The point of these blogs is to speak truth! If my feelings get hurt it is probably because I should be doing better in some regard. A great thinker said" Academics search for Solutions. Most of the time solutions do not exist, only compromises exist". Truer words were never said when it comes to high end audio...
Bob from CT
This thread has me very intrigued. Not for the Lumniscate cables, but the Matrix line of cables. I’m currently using Cardas Cygnus RCA from my Pontus ii to my Atoll IN300 and Cardas Clear digital from a ifi Neo Stream to a Hermes ii DDC. I’m also using Cardas Cygnus SC and Clear PC from the Atoll IN300 to an Equi=Core 1800 MKiii. My question is, if I move to the Matrix RCA/XLR and the coaxial, what sonic differences will I experience? The thread from 2017 was very interesting and has me excited to invest in Cerious Technologies line of cables, but in would like to know if the improvements are worth the investment.
@rgrost great info on these new cables, so think you mentioned that there’s a lighter version for stand mounts, because the first thing I thought was a pair of these taking my speakers clear off their stands unless the were screwed in
In case this helps anyone that runs into the same issue as I did using my iMac computer: I had to click on the center top atomic-looking sign in order for the blue bar to appear which has the information regarding the Lumniscate cable design and price list. Once I saved the website that contained the Lumniscate cable information in my favorites the website worked correctly for me.
I’ve had mine over a month...great out of the box, then the one week settling in time, a few hundred hours playing time and were sounding even more great...casual guess is that after a few weeks and a few hundred hours they were mostly burned-in, but I think that as with many components, the last 10% or so, slowly happens over a few months...it seems now that every few weeks they seem to sound a little better, impossible as it may seem....friends seem to agree....long time huge fan of Bob’s cables, just put an older Nano RCA into a secondary system, and shocked at difference it made over an already good cable...
I can report that after many hours of playing time, even more transparency and refinement have appeared. I don't get cable deniers. They make a huge difference in sound.
I forgot to mention that upon request, Bob made me an umbilical cable for my Modwright Oppo 205 power supply. This cable made quite an impact.
@rgrost Bob are you going to bring back your React speaker tech - the one with the kevlar ballistics powder in the thin tubes? Now that was a fascinating and utterly unique approach to speaker design. A shame it never really went forward.
But I certainly understand how making cables is far less of a headache than small volume speaker manufacturing!
@lancelock — can you tell me about the structure and make up of the umbilical? I asked Zavfino make an OCC-based umbilical to connect my LTA power supply and Pro-Ject RS2 CD Box transport, but they declined. I had a mind to contact Bob as well.
I’m no engineer so it would be best to get that info from Bob, but I can speak to the difference I heard from the stock Modwright umbilical to the Lumniscate. Bob’s umbilical brought clarity, improved dynamics and bigger sound stage. The improvement was not subtle.
That LTA power supply of yours is the real deal. David Berning is the master of power supply design.