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The Silvia is a great machine. I had one for years, now with an ECM one. Any Barista grinder also. The grinder is paramount. No Nespresso, not ever. Get your green beans from sweetmarias.com. Not sweetmaria (porn site).
OT: Espresso machines
I know this is off topic for the A'gon, but I thought my fellow gear enthusiasts had an opinion. I'm looking for a simple, narrow espresso machine. Reliability is important. I have a Nespresso Vertuo which I really like but lately I've been roasting my own coffee and wanted a more traditional machine.
Opinions?
Not surprised to see espresso machine topic. They have a lot in common with audio equipment. Prices range from cheap to the stratosphere. The best espresso machines are Italian made. They are heavy duty and last forever. They pull consistently good espresso shots. At 65 yrs old, I am on my fourth machine. Increasing quality with each purchase (sound familiar?). I currently have a Bezzera BZ10. Great machine. I enjoy two cups every morning. https://www.myespressoshop.com/products/bezzera-bz10-commercial-espresso-machine-pm-semi-automatic-tank-v2?srsltid=AfmBOorVI6-Esk3SgHVVJjifXmofQLfsw2q41zclG6K1eC9roob6x_qb |
My favorite is the Olympia Cremina not inexpensive but they have been making since the 1960s and can be found refurbished under $2k. It is one of the smallest top tier machines available. https://www.cerinicoffee.com/products/olympia-express-cremina-espresso-machine-made-in-switzerland or for something completely different the 9barista |
It doesn't get any simpler than this: GROSCHE Milano Stovetop Espresso Maker Moka Pot 3 espresso Cup - 5 oz, Blue -Moka Espresso Coffee Maker Stove top coffee maker Moka Italian espresso greca coffee maker brewer percolator4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars (23,989) Amazon'sChoice 50+ bought in past month $39.99$39.99 |
I am sure you know this but those Nespressos are not espresso machines at all. Basically they are a nicer k cup setup. I have been roasting beans for many years so if you are that geeked out already a Gaggia is pretty much a great starting point. The rancio Silvia being another good line to look at. You also need an excellent grinder and the sky is the limit. The “least” grinder that will do the proper job is a Baratza Virtuosa. I own 2 Virtuosas, both purchased used. Great mid level grinder and Baratza is a fantastic company on the support side as well. |
@2005 I’d had enough of terrible expensive espresso. Sprung for a Rancilio Silvia and Rocky grinder. Brass boiler commercial parts in a consumer machine. Like our audio equipment, stretch the budget just a little, and you’ll never be disappointed. Google it. Legendary machine. Don’t go short on the grinder as it’s pivotal. Double shot mocha every morning. Tube rolling = playing with different beans. |
I posted a link https://flairespresso.com/product/neo-flex/ and https://us.rok.coffee/ but oh well, ignore me |
@rhg3 Those look very nice, I will look for one without a grinder though since I already have one. The Bambino has been recommended to me as well and looks like a solid contender, especially for size. Nice to know affordable replacement parts are available. |
@whart by hand pulled, you mean the one's that literally have a lever on them you pull to push the water through? |
One of the best espressos I ever had was on an old simple hand pulled machine. I can't imagine those cost much. The other great one I distinctly remember was a glitzy coffee bar in Palermo, near the docks, that had Illy branded all over the shop-- assume the macchina was also Illy but don't remember. We have a quality burr grinder here but do pour overs- that's how I've been making coffee for 50 years at home. I think our current bean comes from Costa Rica- lots of flavor but not super high caffeine. |
Gaggia seems to be the gold standard for value and quality without whistles and bells. It does not get simpler and narrower than this: https://flairespresso.com/product/neo-flex which I have, as well as a DeLonghi. La Pavoni is also narrow. I tried fancy espresso machines, they were not reliable and insignificant quality differences. |
As a first espresso machine, I recommend the semi-automatic Breville Barrista Express BES870XL. I use it daily and have found it to be a solid machine. After 20 years, I’ve only had to replace the pump for $24 and a few hours of my time. These machines require a little practice to dial in the espresso shot. That’s a bit of an art unto itself. There are better machines and better grinders, however, that’s a very slippery slope. I have no doubt these machines appeal to a large segment of gear heads in this forum so you are likely to get some great advice. Good luck in your search and please keep us posted as to your progress. |