Please tell me the wait will be work it......my rack

I have some older Solid Steel racks. Each shelve has threaded points.

But I do have a set of Critical Mass footers under each component.

ozzy

@boxcarman

For a few hundred bucks you can get a Pangea wood rack with 4 or 5 shelves. If you think you have vibration issues, use footers or an isolation pad. It is ridiculous to spend megabucks on a rack.

+1

Better to spend the money on nice custom book/LP/CD racks and other room treatments.

Sorbothane, points and VPI bricks in a Pangea create an absolutely dead support. ZERO tube amp microphonics.

IMO, anyone with the TT the same room as speakers capable of realistic levels is asking for trouble. [My last TT set up was in another room with the ARC SP6 with support anchored to the concrete floor... in the last century 😉]

None believers can digitize the preamp output with the power amps on and off, then compare. Any delta and you gots a problem

What a surprise.   A Critical Mass dealer giving a positive review of the product!   I wonder how the folks down below are enjoying the freeze. 🤣

Whatever pleases everyone, but I tend to agree that a well made rack should minimize tweaking as the improvement they bring is more uniform.

Some of them look nice too.

you guys dont understand critical mass racks are a huge upgrade to a system when you remove noise and resonance from components it is an upgrade as significant as upgrading an amp or preamp from a very good component to a reference level

we havebeen playing with these kinds of racks for years we started eith hrs went to stillpoints then  to critical mass

we demoed a 20k stillpoints rack it transformed our reference system from good to something approaching a live event

unless you have experienced this kind of device and what it dies sonically

you have no idea to the magnitude of the improvement

honestly I could never have imagined ever spending 20k on a rack tillI personally heard how transformenal a real energy absorbing rack can be

Dave and Troy

Audio intellect nj

critical mass dealer

For me the rack for my gear is at the back of the line for upgrade dollars. I’m using a VTI rack (inexpensive, not very well made, passable) and picked up a few Symposium Svelte Shelves used to place under each component to enhance isolation. Works great and leaves me with funds to spend where a real difference can be heard.

For a few hundred bucks you can get a Pangea wood rack with 4 or 5 shelves.  If you think you have vibration issues, use footers or an isolation pad.  It is ridiculous to spend megabucks on a rack.

Interesting enough, we use a piece of junk in our listening room with brick walls, we have no complaints from reviewers, or people who come to hear equipment in our Listening Room.  Go Figure.

VTI Racks... beautiful solid and customizable. My system took 2 of their bigger racks and was still under a grand.

You guys are making me feel pretty good.

I just bought some SolidSteel racks yesterday

through US AudioMart. Used. $350 for two 

identical units. Now the freight was hefty-

Added another $200. The website for this

Italian company is designed to part people

from their money. Got me!

How did I do?

I just got a new Adona rack and am super happy with the quality.  it only took two weeks to get.  I will now sell all of my isolation pods because I do not need them anymore.

Folks are entitled to spend their hard-earned on whatever they want. My "rack" cost a few bucks and sounds fantastic. I met the Stillpoints guy at a show and was stunned when he told me the rack I was looking at was priced at $38,000. Takes all sorts!

Arnold at Core is not only a true artisan but also a fellow audiophile and music lover ;-) i don’t believe there is a harder and smarter honest individual in audio. I have two of his quadratic diffusers….. effective works of art ;-)

Over the course of my career I’ve designed many isolation stands for equipment that is generally heavier and much more sensitive than audio gear and I have to say that other than aesthetics there’s really no need for rocket science when deciding what to place your audio components on. I personally chose to use a 300 lb mahogany cabinet for my stuff. 
But- given the cost of design, welding/machining and post production finishes the example shown above at $1,800 looks like a pretty good deal. 

Plus one on Core Audio racks. I have both the 3 level and an isolation stand for my power amp. Arnold is a true artist and fabulous to work with. Photos are in my profile. 

Yes.  These rack prices are complete nonsense.

Be thankful there is a delivery hold up and try to use this to cancel your order and get your $$$$$$ back.

I put all my gear longitudinally on very heavy marble and stone. In all must weigh a ton.  Yes.  This is far more solid than wooden shelves, however many butchers handed in their blocks for big buxx.

Need to get this into perspective.  Big $$$$$ on racks is even sillier than big $$$$$ on cables.

+++ @arcticdeth ​​​​​@bigtwin 

@erik_squires   shouldn't burn money on ButcherBlox

All I can say is I use a Core Audio PkyKraft 3L rack for the components and a special isolation shelf for the TT. This kit is amazingly well built, looks stunning and gives complete isolation from feedback. Here is what the system looked like before I purchased the TT shelf:

https://www.audiogon.com/systems/7324?_gl=1*8zqiuw*_ga*NTQyNTQxNjI2LjE2NzE3MzM0ODE.*_ga_SR0PMVVEN1*MTY3MjQyNDI5Ni45LjEuMTY3MjQyNDg5MC4xOS4wLjA.

@bigtwin 

+2

 I agree wholeheartedly, some of these prices are just highway robbery, but it’s the 

hitheadssay morons who actually pay that much thinking a rack will once again make unicorns crap rainbows and vomit skittles. 
best ones I bought for my amp was a massive solid cutting board, which I lightly sanded and stained cherry. It looks nice with the wood.

was 45$ on sale at bed, bath & beyond 20+ years ago

other audio on the 4 ft wide tv stand.

some people are too dumb and spend that much 

I'm sorry but when I see companies like Critical Mass asking somone to pay $20,000+  for a rack to set their equipment on, I have to ask what flavor Kool Aid they are serving with that.  Don't want to hear the debate.  I'm just expressing an opinion.  

the Criticalmass racks are worth the wait

Not sure what rack you are comparing to.  Big fan of Butcher Block acoustics though.