Best speakers for max. $3000?


  I would like to upgrade to some new speakers and I might have a maximum of $3000 to spend if all goes well.
I don't care if they are new or used but my real world experience is limited so I am asking the experts!   I know it is subjective.
  I have Mirage OM-7s now with a HSU sub.  My amp is a Bryston 100B SST.  
Also, I have a chance to buy a set of Thiel CS 2.4s. I plan to try them.   Thanks for any advice!
rmcfee
I've done a lot of demos and nothing and I mean NOTHING comes close to the Tekton DI at 3k. 
@bajaed , 
An amp with 100wpc should be fine for just about any Vandy speaker.
I have never heard a Rogue, and would be interested in hearing your impressions.
+2 for Vandersteen.
From the 1's to the 3a sig's. And, don't discount the VLR bookshelf speaker, either. (I have the VLR's mounted near the ceiling corners and a pair of HSU subs. Though not as refined as my Treo's, it really is a nice pairing).
If you do opt for the 1's, adding a subwoofer or two should be within your budget, especially if you buy used.
Bob
I'm plugging my paid listing here only because the Spatial M3 Turbo S came up in a few posts. Mine (as-new pair) are for sale for well below retail, if you think they're right match for your system. Check the listings.
In my experience, you can’t top the Paradigm Prestige 75Fs for dynamics, resolution and balance at this level!
I can't believe no one has asked:

1.) what types of music do you generally listen to? 
2.) How large is your room? and in what orientation will you have your speakers.
3.) Do you have 2 to 3 feet to play with in terms of getting speakers away from the front wall?

But to answer your question based on my speakers here are my personal thoughts:

The Thiel's will be excellent choice and have amazing sound stage and are known for their excellent bass response relative to their size. Some complain the metal dome tweeters are harsh.. I don't think so myself.

I currently have and listen to regularly:

*Magnepan 1.7i --For $2200 new and better used price these are incredible but crave a subwoofer depending on your tastes. Great for jazz and acoustic and actually sound incredible for EDM, electronic, and smaller classical arrangements. Picky about placement and you need some real estate to really get them up and sparkling. They crave power. Recommend more than 200 watts/channel if you can. Universally lauded as one of the great values in hifi.

* Spatial Audio Hologram M3 Turbo S (around $2800 new)- Need space from the back wall but these do a lot of things really well. Imaging is wide and images are presented with precision when set up properly. The depth of sound stage is less impressive, but adequate. These will absolutely piss your neighbors off if you want. Personally I also like the minimalist aesthetic to these as well. 

*Gallo Reference 3.1 w/ SA amplifier for the second Voice Coil: --These are seriously special speakers. The CDT tweeter is incredible and with the subwoofer amp will go go down to around to 25 hz fairly flat depending on room acoustics.  These are truly incredible all-a-rounders and sound amazing with most types of music. Spatial cues and top extension are rendered with amazing detail. Are very revealing of upstream electronics, but never harsh or fatiguing. The sound stage is one of the best I've ever had in my home truly these disappear. Can be found on the used market for around $1800-$2500. Currently a pair for sale on another site with the SA subwoofer amp for around $3000. I've been through a fair amount of speakers in my time, and these are permanent, never-get-rid-of classics. Check out reviews and you'll see what I mean. Super duper hype about these when they were new.. And they live up to it. 

*Gallo Reference Strada 2 (essentially the 3.1's without the bass section updated mids and tweets compared to the 3.1's):-- Can be found new on Ebay for around $2k. I got mine used for under $1000. These monitors, with the help of a decent sub or two, will blow your mind and are my current favorites among all of my gear. Small, diminutive form factor wont take up much room, can be placed closer to walls, and COMPELTELY disappear when set up proper. Bang for the buck these are truly wonderful and sturdy little performers. At times they seem to have the same quick transient response associated with electrostatics but will also hit hard with big dynamic shifts in music. They completely fill my 13x23 room to concert levels with no strain... Can Not give them high enough praise.. 
@helomech This thread is killing me! Now I really have to hear a set of Spatials. Anyone in the Philly area care to let me listen?
I've heard most of the speakers mentioned so far, the Spatials outperform most of them, no contest. That even goes for the $2K M4 Turbo S. They make Maggies sound veiled and diffused in comparison. As for Focals, you have to move up to the Kanta range to compete, and even then, the bass definition of the Spatials is superior. I realize I sound like a raving fanboy, but know that I don't own any. I actually returned the M4 Triode Masters due to my preference for Derek Hughe's lossy-cabinet designs and their amazing soundstage abilities when dialed-in, but that's a completely subjective preference. However, when it comes to overall performance/dollar, Spatial just kills it, even with their pro-audio drivers which I wasn't expecting to perform so well to be honest. I think part of their advantage is the tweeter also covers most of the midrange, rather than the woofer covering most of the midrange as with a typical 2-way. 
Another vote for Vandy 2Ce Sig IIs. Phase and time correct, first-order crossovers, excellent customer service. Nothing else does soundstage and imaging better.
I concur with the Golden Ear Triton 1's comment, and just purchased a set NEW for $3500 (Dealer closing out stock, to focus on new T-Ref's). Had I not found those (at that price), I was going to spring for the Tekton Double Impact's.

Happy hunting!
Tekton Double Impacts are the speaker to beat for 3k IMO. Other nice stuff in that range but nothing full range that comes close. 
Many thanks for all the opinions!  I've really only heard a few speakers so I am glad to hear from all of you who have experienced other types. 
Philharmonic speakers are outstanding also Maggie 1.7i with a sub but everyone is going to have different ideas best to listen yourself. Depending on where you live get out to the stores and trying to get an audition in someone's home is also an option. Good luck happy listening.
I concur about the Spatial’s Audio M-5’s.
a significant speaker that outperforms the market place in this range.

I have the X3s... https://youtu.be/spiojZBk2kY
Cheers!
Mike in nc is right . Couldnt have said it much better . You need to talk about your listening space and your type of listening . Do you require book shelf , floor or what have you . Infinite baffle , planar , coaxial horn ? On and on .
 Which brand are you partial to ,because those always sound the best. 
Paradigm Prestige 85F towers.  They retail for $4,000 and you can buy them from Scott at The Sound Shop in Colorado Springs.  Great guy and really honest.
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Couldn’t hurt to check out either Tekton Pendragons (aprox $2,000) or the Double Impacts ($3,000), and that includes shipping within the US. I listened to a pair of Thiel spkrs (among many others) also before going with a pair of Pendragons. .
Choosing the right speaker isn’t easy. 
Best of luck to you! 
I just upgraded from the Mirage OM-10's to the Focal 936.
All I can say is I love em.  Go audition them someplace.  I thought the OM 10's sounded good.  Well, their just isn't any comparison what so ever.
Thanks for the replies! My room is about 20 feet long. Half of it is 20 feet wide and the other part is 14 feet wide. Sort of an L shape.
As for music I listen to everything from jazz to Meshuggah and everything in between. Allman Bros to Yes. Not much classical.
I use a VPI Scoutmaster II table and a Cambridge Audio cd transport that's relatively inexpensive. The DAC is a Bryston BDA-1.
Currently I keep the Mirages around 3 or 4  feet from the back wall and around 4 feet from the sides.
The room has some soft stuff on the front and rear wall to try and help the sound a bit. It seems like a fairly good room as long as you stay out of the corners!
And I listen at moderate volumes because I find things get a bit harsh if it gets too loud. I'm not sure if the harshness is the speakers or the room.
    I'd play it louder if it stayed smoother.   Thanks all!
How about a used pair of Golden Ear Triton Ones?  With internally powered sub-woofers, the quality is impressive.
I would go with Focal Aria 936, which can be had for $2650 on US Audio Mart - https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649541113-focal-aria-936-audio-speakers/

The HSU sub is a great sub, keep it and pair with 936. I have the exact same configuration in one of my systems and the sound quality is amazing.
https://www.vandersteen.com/products/model-2ce-signature-ii  
if it's a PA system or a 2-way paint job you want to pay for then look elsewhere. If you are trying to enjoy the musicians' character and intended efforts true to the recorded Venue or as it really happened, a turntable with the latest 3 k Vandy Sig 2 will blow your mind * Fact:: The Vandersteen 2 series is still the best selling hi-end loudspeaker of all the time.
 Best JohnnyR Vandersteen dealer


"Best" is very much in the ears of the beholder. If you told us a bit more about what kind of music you like, what volume you listen at, and what you don’t like about your current speakers, people might be able to give better advice. Do you prefer standmount or floorstanding speakers? Also, will you still be using the sub, or do you want a full-range model?

I hope you weren’t entirely serious when you called us experts! We are just a bunch of other audiophiles, with more or less experience, every one with opinions, but we won’t be listening to your system for the next X years. Who knows, one of us might even be a teenager who hates music but reads her father’s copies of TAS and occasionally posts here to get even.
I heard some spatial audio speakers at the tweek geek's house at a Colorado audio society event and thought they were very nice (Spatial Audio X3 Open Baffle System w/ Beyma AMT). 

I've also considered what I would do for similar money if I ever needed to move my Coincident PRE's out of the living room. I think I'd try out some ohms.  Very positive impressions in those threads around here.
You should seriously consider Spatial Audio M3 Turbo S. They perform way above their price point.
From what I’ve read about them nothing new at $3k is going to be much of an upgrade.

Here’s an apparently level headed review from Doug Schneider:

http://www.soundstagenetwork.com/revequip/mirage_om7.htm

So you’re best looking at used, and even then there’s nothing obvious to report. At this point real full bandwidth upgrades start getting costly. Harbeth M40s, big Tannoys or DeVore models, Wilson’s, and yes the Thiel 2.4s may also be an upgrade if this review is anything to go by. 

https://6moons.com/audioreviews/thiel/2.4_2.html

It looks like you’ve done your homework. Hopefully you can pick them at a good price after arranging for a home demo first.



As far as new speakers go, the best I've heard under $3K, that I believe most listeners will enjoy are the Spatial Audio M4 Triode Masters, recently replaced by the M5 Sapphires. They do require a fair bit of distance from the wall behind them but are not finicky otherwise. Spatial's customer support is excellent as well. 

There are other speakers I prefer that can be had for less than $3K or near $3K but I don't consider them as good of all-rounders.