Neil Young calls out Tidal



TIDAL is calling their files of my songs Masters. But TIDAL’s MQA files are not my masters. I make my masters - not TIDAL. I made my masters the way I wanted them to sound. If TIDAL referred to their titles as TIDAL MASTERS, I would have no problem, but they don’t. They call them Masters. I had my music removed from that platform. They are not my masters.”.

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@mahgister You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You want to have the freedom to not be vaccinated, at the expense of people dying from car accidents, etc, that they didn’t have to. That is highly unethical.

I am all for you having your choice, but the moment your choice forces someone else’s death, you are morally and ethically liable for this. And as you made that choice, you can and should be held liable for this in my opinion. No medical treatment if there is not room for you, and you must pay 100% of the cost for the treatment yourself.

The type of hypocrisy you live by when you try to argue away the consequences of your choice is ridiculous, and should be called out. You made a choice, now you need to live with that choice at your expense, not the expense of others. 

As for the censorship, again, it the show was called."One idiot talking to another idiot about things neither understand or know anything about" then it would be one thing. However, it is not called that. And Joe Rogan treats every one of his performance artists the same, regardless if they actually have some knowledge on the topic at hand, or not. That leads the masses who wants to live in their own echo chamber to believe things that are just not true.

You are right about the derailing of this thread...

But the actual  general censorship explain some reactions like mine here...

For the rest of your post claiming non vaccinated must die in their house, this reflect the complete hysteria and mass manipulation behind so much completely insane medical politic...

The fact that you are unable to see that reflect not only your lack of understanding about the situation ( forced massed vaccinations) but also your complete ignorance of medecine ethic and simple epidemiology about corona air borne virus whish ask for low cost treatment of the non problematic population and the vaccination targetting ONLY at risk people.. This is the sane medical politic...and a democratic act instead of inforcing mass stupidity and vaccines even for childrem or pregnant women... 

People are just stupid and ignorant, you can’t argue with that ever.

I will not add anything...

People are just stupid and ignorant, you can’t argue with that ever.

No one will change any minds on this forum. Some will believe sites that are 100% verifiably full of lies over actual statistics of the Canadian COVID situation. Others will say that no one talks about side effects of the vaccine, when every single hospital in the world have a website about the side effects, so does every news site, and every manufacturer, the CDC, the FDA, and so on. It is so simple to actually fix ones ignorance if you had the desire to do so. But people rather live in an echo chamber of idiot and crazy town.

We need real and applicable solutions, like unvaccinated are 100% responsible for their medical costs, unvaccinated will NOT be admitted to hospitals for COVID related symptoms unless there is at least 20% capacity available. Someone with a heart attack shouldn't die from your choice. 

Ultimately, you made a choice, please go and die with that choice in your home.

 

And none of this have anything to do with Neil Young standing up to Tidal telling them don’t tell your customers that your compressed lossy shit is my masters.

After Fukushima, older people in Japan volunteered to walk into the melting reactors in an effort to contain the nuclear accident.

A group of more than 200 Japanese pensioners are volunteering to tackle the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima power station.

The Skilled Veterans Corps, as they call themselves, is made up of retired engineers and other professionals, all over the age of 60.

They say they should be facing the dangers of radiation, not the young.

It was while watching the television news that Yasuteru Yamada decided it was time for his generation to stand up.

And here we have older people willing to sacrifice every generation that is to follow, regardless of the consequences, they are willing to destroy every freedom, every right, they are willing to bring about unimaginable tyranny, wishing Death upon everyone that dares to think differently, all for what??? So they cling on to their crabby life for just a little bit longer?

what a way to go out...... what a legacy to leave behind.

Cowards, to the bitter end.

when it’s my time to go, I hope I can leave behind a better account of myself.

@oldhvymec you wanna have a real conversation about who is infecting who?

This is data I have verified myself, it is 100000% true. You can do your own due diligence.

 

Fully Vaccinated account for 89% of Cases since December

Official Canadian Government data shows that the Covid-19 vaccines are now proving to have a negative effectiveness in fully vaccinated people aged 12 and over of minus 425%, after the fully vaccinated accounted for 89% of all Covid-19 cases in Canada over the past month.

 

 

 

 

Man, this is my first day at Audiogon forum, I thought this was an audio forum. Does anyone here know where there's a good audio forum?

I just catch covid TODAY from my triple vaccinated wife and from my double vaccinated son...I am not vaccinated myself...I choose not for various reasons..

I NEVER SAID that we must not vaccinate some part of the population and those willing it...

I said that vaccinations must be for at risk old people with co morbidities and those who wanted it...

The truckers in Canada are almost all vaccinated save 20% of them max...

They manifested AGAINST forced madated confinement in ALL cases, closing of the economy, and forced vaccinations at work...

FREEDOM is the first health priority for most of us especially the young people... The state of the immune system in young people is CORRELATED with freedom......

My dear friend i hope you will not count me amongst the "nuts" who are against all vaccinations in any form and for all... I am not....

But MASS vaccinations whitout a risk computation to target the right population, like in the flu virus case, is INSANE POLITIC medically and democratically...

This hysteria has killed same amount of people worldwide than the virus itself...

Is it clear ?

Anyway i will always respect you, nevermind your opinion...

Your friend, mahgister...

Don’t get shots, just walk out in front of a truck it’s quicker and cost tax payers a whole lot less. No shots No brains..

I am sorry for your loss. The older we get the more of those we have to live through. The live through part is key however. We can't extinguish freedom out of fear. If force can be used for this crisis which crisis will arise next that we have to endure the intended or unintended consequences for? Government motto should be Never let a crisis go to waste.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about Neil Young or CSN or if Cher jumps on the bandwagon. But MQA isn’t part of the equation to me in the first place. I subscribe to TIDAL’s fairly new Hi-Fi tier that tops out at CD quality without MQA which is fine by me and my ears and saves me $12 a month over getting "High Res" files.

Tidal used MQA as a marketing tool to lure in unsuspecting "audiophiles" and it worked! I stand by Bob Carver’s white paper assessment of the current incarnation of MQA as being little more than snake oil, not audible to humans at all. And any "changes" it makes to the music are CHANGES, not any added detail that is present in the original file.

Anyway, I have all the Neil Young and CSN I care about on vinyl or CD, so their absence as "Masters" from Tidal isn’t important to me. They are all still there in CD quality. Good enough. There’s too much new (and old) music to discover better than listening to the same old songs a hundred times.

Northern Men. I'm America Irish/Sioux! Northern men?

I'll settle Being A MAN! Just a man. God bless Luis Munoz's family. One of the hardest workin' people I ever met. US Steel worker Pittsburg CA.

Don't get a shot do get a shot. My friend is gone, because he caught SARS from someone that was infected. Not from someone that wasn't.. I've seen a few people take back their BS CRAP STUPID stance when they carry their buddies casket.

Last words from Luis: I'll see you soon..

I've had enough, between heart attacks and SARS I've had all I can take. I'm close sad to say.. Lord I'm ready, let me finish what I need to do and go to my heavenly home. No SARs or heart attacks or cancer or O2 machines in heaven. I hear the weather is fine and the Lamb lays down with the Lyon. No wrong, only right.

I don't want to argue I want my two friends back, that's all, can someone fix this with an argument?

Amen

@oldhvymec I generally like your post and respect your knowledge on audio and greatly respect your service to our nation and what you went through because of it. Why did you do it? Was it to protect the freedoms the people of this nation enjoy?

Time after time after time we have seen how the "experts" have been wrong about everything they've espoused. We were told to mask up then found the majority of mask are ineffective. We see those in charge decree what we must do in order to be 'safe' then we see those same people repeatedly do whatever they want to whenever they want to; a very real do as I say, not as I do. We see 10s of thousands of fans cheering maskless happily in college and pro sports venues, packed in like sardines then force children who are least susceptible to wear mask while in the classroom. We were told to lockdown to keep it from spreading and recent studies by Johns Hopkins show it had little to no effect. I am sure there are some who are trying to find a way to discredit and marginalize Johns Hopkins as we speak. How much damage has that decision by the 'experts' done to the economy? We have yet to see the full damage, but supply shortages and inflation are the precursors. I have a feeling it's going to get a lot worse.

The greatest atrocities man has seen have occurred because those in charge or the experts have decided they know best, and they hold the bullhorn and reins of power. China's Gret Leap Forward led to the starvation deaths of 30-50 million. The people of Germany were convinced by those in charge the Jews were the cause of all of their problems. The Great Depression was caused by government experts as well as the Dust Bowl of the 30's which crippled and disrupted the lives of millions. Countless times throughout history the common man has been the victim of the 'experts'. Usually this includes the marginalization of those who disagree, much as you and others who place their faith in this vaccine do to those who don't. You suggest we all just commit suicide to save taxpayer dollars while another poster in a different thread gloried in all of the extra parking spaces that will be available when we all just die. The concern over my health is touching.

We have all seen commercials for vaccines and medications where in the background they list all of the possible side-effects. Have you ever heard any commercials for this vaccine listing any of those? We know at this point that there are in fact side-effects and some for some that are deadly. Why? Why haven't we been told about them? Why is the messaging more important? 

We are all familiar with vaccines. I have been vaccinated against certain things. I never thought once that my vaccine would be ineffective unless you also had been. Have we ever been told the flu vaccine would be ineffective unless your neighbor had it too? Seems rather ridiculous when put that way yes?

I don't know who here is religious or has a knowledge of the Bible but this is truly some end times schitze going on. The prophecy states those who refused to take the mark of the Beast were ostracized and excluded from being able to participate in all commerce. It seemed bizarre when I first read that and had some comprehension 45 years ago or so; I never thought I'd see it play out in my lifetime. I AM NOT saying that this is that mark, but the correlation is scary and seeing those tactics employed is truly frightening and shows us how such a prophecy could be fulfilled.

If the vaccine is effective oldhvy then why are you and those who believe as you do care whether I or others are not? Why are they imposing such drastic measures and ostracizing any who dare to discuss and question? Your vaccine has protected you right?

 

@kitechaser that’s heartbreaking.

Sadly you are wasting your time, these people have been bombarded by fear based emotional advertising for 2 years and the Cognitive Dissonance is cemented in. No amount of data or evidence can convince them that they have been duped..... get jabbed and get covid (the vaccine still works).... get jabbed and get hospitalized (the vaccine still works)....get jabbed and die (the vaccine is still working). This is a cult, madness of the crowds.....

 

@oldhvymec its not fair for you to guilt trip anyone into getting this shot. I know more people that have been severely injured by it, versus people that have been hospitalized for covid, and own bout with it lasted 8 hours, without the vaccine 🙏

This young woman is just one of millions of victims that thought they were doi g the right thing.

Luis Munoz was in my wedding. Lost his life to complications from Covid Feb 2 2022 Father of 6, Grandfather of 14 and 2 days before he went to heaven became a Great Grandfather. His beloved wife Bitsy has just tested positive an was admitted into Emergency with distressed breathing. I went to school with her, she was in our wedding too..

When YOUR friends and family are taken (Manuel Encarnacion in Aug 2020) by SARS tell me how YOU won’t get a shot. I’ve never heard such selfishness in my whole friggin life.

Argue all you want YOU ARE SELFISH. Period.

The only exception are isolated tribes all over the world.. They will dart YOUR A$$ for snoopin’ anyways. Rightly so.. Green GO!!

My Grandmother was 99 years old when she went to heaven. She had every shot that was ever created. TWICE..

My Mother in law & Father In Law, both over 95 when they went to heaven. Never missed a shot and gave blood every other month until they were 80+. They ask how old they were. LOL

Don't get shots, just walk out in front of a truck it's quicker and cost tax payers a whole lot less. No shots No brains..

@pesky_wabbit Will it ever be possible to have a rational Neil Young music thread on Gon ever again?

Is that a play on words?

Will it ever be possible to have a rational Neil Young music thread on Gon ever again?

Should anyone be seeking a recently released DAC that has MQA deleted from its brain, the SMSL SU-9n is one to consider.

Its the only recent Sigma Delta DAC that I'm aware of that doesn't feature this insidious technology.

Wow, this thread derailed real fast when the crazies got going.

The point of censorship is a valid one, if the Rogan show was called “One idiot talking to another idiot about things neither understand or know anything about”, which is the truth.

People take a stand for what they believe it, you don’t want to get vaccinated, your choice, I will still be here long after you are gone, and I won’t think about your untimely departure at all, nor do I care too much that MQA is just a marketing ploy that some fall for, others don’t. MQA sounds significantly worse than the CD to me on my primary system, not too much worse with my headphones, and no difference with my AirPods. So you system makes a difference in what you are able to hear, if that wasn’t clear to everyone already.

But one thing is for sure, MQA is not lossless.

The people in charge have plans to keep this covid crap going well into 2025.

The last 2 years were just a Dress Rehearsal. So yeah, it's not going away anytime soon, pull up a chair, and keep rolling up your sleeves. 

yeah, I get the distinct impression that if COVID were to disappear overnight some people would have a huge vacuum in their life

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Lol. Most people commenting don’t give a crap about Covid. It’s all about “ whose side are you on”. Get a life. 

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@pesky_wabbit you are right any country that could elect Biden and Trump is capable of electing Rogan.

At least Rogan can speak clearly and is not suffering from Alzheimer’s.

@pesky_wabbit  you are now a GMO. 

Megan Krench

In a unanimous decision last month, the Supreme Court ruled that naturally occurring genes are not patentable. But, said the Court, cDNA, a man-made copy of the genetic messenger in cells, is patentable. As a geneticist, I have my own opinions about this ruling. But the potential outcomes are important enough that all members of the public, not just biologists, should be equipped with the knowledge to evaluate it. The ruling may significantly affect patients’ access to genetic testing, and it sets an important precedent for future developments in the biotechnology sector.

The company that applied for these patents is Myriad Genetics. Building on the work of researchers around the world, Myriad identified the location and sequence of two genes that are sometimes mutated in breast cancer, known as BRCA1 and BRCA2 (collectively, BRCA1/2). Myriad filed patents for the genes in 1994 and 1995.

People can have their risk of breast or ovarian cancer assessed by finding out if they have mutations in BRCA1/2. Then, one can use this information to increase preventative care measures, like increased screening, or even having both breasts completely removed (a double mastectomy)--an elective surgery recently made famous by Angelina Jolie.

Myriad Genetics is the primary distributor of the BRCA1/2 test, which costs upwards of $3000. Because Myriad owned the patents on BRCA1/2, it was the only company that could administer the test for cancerous mutations.

The Supreme Court ruled that genes cannot be patented because "natural phenomena" are not patentable. That’s good news for doctors, researchers, and anyone who doesn’t like the idea of a company owning patent rights to pieces of your body. It also opens up BRCA1/2 testing to labs other than Myriad. But, the Court also ruled that cDNA, an edited man-made copy of the gene, can be patented. Ruling that cDNA can be patented will have important consequences for research, including research to discover new disease treatments and create new genetic tests.

Few people outside of biology research have heard of cDNA. In order to understand the critical distinction between DNA and cDNA, some background is necessary. Genes, which are made of DNA, contain the information required to make proteins. DNA is double-stranded, like a ladder. The familiar DNA nucleotides A, C, T, and G each have a complementary partner they always pair with: A always pairs with T, and C with G.

To make protein from DNA, several steps must happen (illustrated in the accompanying schematic). First, the DNA pulls apart into two separate strands and a copy is made. Instead of DNA, this copy is made of RNA. The copy, called pre-RNA, is not identical to template DNA. It’s a complementary copy. Next, that pre-RNA is edited so that only the parts that encode protein (the exons) remain. This exons-only version is called mRNA. The cell then uses the mRNA to assemble proteins.

For scientists, working with RNA is difficult; it is unstable and degrades quickly. So it is sometimes advantageous for researchers to extract mRNA and convert it back to stable DNA. The new DNA that’s created from the mRNA is called cDNA (see DNA to cDNA schematic). Just like pre-RNA is a complementary copy of the DNA template, the cDNA is a complementary copy of the mRNA template. It’s worth mentioning that cDNA can occur naturally; certain viruses can copy mRNA to cDNA (in fact, this is where scientists learned the technique).

 

 

cDNA does not present the same obstacles to patentability as naturally occurring, isolated DNA segments. As already explained, creation of a cDNA sequence from mRNA results in an exons-only molecule that is not naturally occurring.8 Petitioners concede that cDNA differs from natural DNA in that “the non-coding regions have

 

been removed.” Brief for Petitioners 49. They nevertheless argue that cDNA is not patent eligible because “[t]he nucleotide sequence of cDNA is dictated by nature, not by the lab technician.” Id., at 51. That may be so, but the lab technician unquestionably creates something new when cDNA is made. cDNA retains the naturally occurring exons of DNA, but it is distinct from the DNA from which it was derived. As a result, cDNA is not a “product of nature” and is patent eligible under §101, except insofar as very short series of DNA may have no intervening introns to remove when creating cDNA. In that situation, a short strand of cDNA may be indistinguishable from natural DNA.9

 

@pesky_wabbit  2013 Supreme Court decision, that established precedent that natural DNA after introduction of MRNA creates cDNA, Complementary DNA that is a patentable/tradeable commodity. Pfizer now owns you, literally, figuratively, and legally,  

Hov much money are you getting from Putin, you devil you?

mahgister KGB mole since cold war..

go bear wrestle with Putin - suffer many head trauma..

@yuviarora 

You write that the vaccine is known to alter genes. Would that be more or less of an alteration than coffee?

By the way, which vaccine are you talking about?

 

 

He is the biggest voice in US Media and dwarfs all mainstream media prime-time hosts...combined.

what disturbs me greatly is that the US has already amply demonstrated it has the capacity to vote him in as President

Life Insurance payouts skyrocket +258% post vaccine rollout.

More confirmation that the Leaked Military data is accurate, and this increase in deaths is also reflected in the population at large. 

The global life insurance industry was hit with reported claims due to COVID-19 of $5.5 billion in the first nine months of 2021 versus $3.5 billion for the whole of 2020, according to insurance broker Howden in a report on Jan 4, while the industry had expected lower payouts due to the rollout of vaccines.

"We definitely paid out more than I had anticipated at the beginning of last year," said Hannover Re board member Klaus Miller.

 

 

@mahgister ahhhhhhhhh stop posting Russian Disinformation.

Hov much money are you getting from Putin, you devil you?

Well I have a few things to say:

1 - MQA is a lossy compression scheme.  Don't get mad at me, read the Benchmark Media papers on it.

2 - Neil's Pono player with the Ayre output stage was the best headphone amp I've ever heard.  I don't know if Neil is an audiophile but his player sure was.

 

 

«Vaccine has "no significance regarding severe illness," says Prof. Yaakov Jerris.»

 

 

North americans people has no idea where Uttar Pradesh is...Their TV set never go there like say Trump it is a shit hole ... The news from covid coming from there means nothing to them...

Some of them may know where is Israel though ...

But now Rogan is a racist which say the n... word now....And spotify cancel 100 interviews of him without reason which had no connection with covid.., is it not a beautifully applied pressure to censor him more...

But hey! Neil Young is right , and he is vindicated you see, he sing well after all...

 

But wait a minute! This isreali doctor must be censored he spoke disinformation after all...

Why are isrealis news journals not so well controlled like their american counterpart, why did they let speak their doctors by God? why?

Dr. McCullough was suspended here in America and banned because he say BEFORE this Israeli doctor the same thing....He is one of the very few top cardiologist specialist in the world by CITATIONS and publisched research... and the single greatest expert on covid treatment by the number of publications ... Dont trust me VERIFY...He was PUNISHED by threats in America yes...a FREE country indeed....

I understand i think why israelis media news let speak their doctors , they are not too much idiots like Neil Young in Israel asking for censorship of doctors...

They need more Neil Young in Israel anyway without doubts some must think ...Too much disinformation....And he sing so well that they will keep him...Good riddance for me...Who need him here anyway, his beautiful voice is already recorded...

😁

 

 

 

 

@noske I got my math wrong, didn't think about my reply,  and deleted my own comment...30 seconds after I posted it. 

So sue me,  eat me, whatever.....everything else I have said stands open to scrutiny. 

It is like that in all audio thread and most of the times everywhere else...

People argue about a tree not seeing the forest...

They argue about the meaning of a number...

Losing sight of the whole...

Like in audio when i entered in it 7 years ago and tried to understand, many were analysing with tools they dont master piece if gear, headphone or speakers, without knowing a thing about acoustic which is the most important factor in S.Q. way over electronic new design of dac, amplifier or even speakers..

Ignorance, especially crowned ignorance of the "specialist" is destructive of all understanding...

I am not suprized by the way this debate take the wrong turn...

Focusing on numbers and fleas on a single tree...

Where is the forest about which our attention must be turned?

 

For I.Q. check Wiiliam James Sidis life and forget about your own I.Q. versus other people I.Q.😊😁😊

Anyway beyond Sidis, what is the I.Q. of Christ or Buddha... It does not matter because never mind the working engine potential of the brain , the driver is CONSCIOUSNESS... And great I.Q. with low consciousness make someone more dangerous than a moron : Bill Gates...

Do you think that he is "intelligent" ?

No, because  pathological self interest kill any true knowledge and wisdom , nevermind the I.Q.

 

 

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@yuviarora Let’s do the math...Omicron is 91% less deadly (so about half the deaths/infection).....The American public can't do simple math.

Your IQ is, say, 100.

My IQ is 91% less than yours.

Is my IQ half of yours?  Or more than yours? 

Careful, it might be a trick question.

I wasn't Anti-Vaxx before this pandemic, but now I am against all vaccines mandates, every single one of them. If I have kids in the future, they will not be vaccinated under any circumstances..... I have zero confidence left in the medical system, and want no part of it moving forward. 

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One more time.

I am not anti Vaxx.

I am against the the Government Lock Downs (don’t work), Masks that do nothing and Vaxx Mandates.

Vaccination should be between you and your Doctor.

I am also against Censorship.

Mr Young has been told and he is irrelevant.

@yuviarora I am not an anti vaxxer. I am against a Government Mandate when the Government has been more wrong than right.

@mapman I was awesome in my 20's not so much anymore. Just having fun. 1st intermission.

Also you should read this: 91% is correct. This variant is weak 91% less fatal than Delta and that is a fact.

 

I dont cited any numbers in my last post...No one here has the competence and the time to verify analyse and compute all facts numbers...

It is useless to argue about numbers..

Try to be logical...Read my last post...

Only facts there anyone can see with his own eye , easy to verify...

Who dare to contradict any fact in my last post ?

Add them all together... what do you see after that addition?

Do you see that any news journalist is right against all these scientists and many more i dont put in my last post...

Do you think senile Neil Young is a trusted guide to truth and freedom against all these scientists who risk their money, time and career in some case and attacks to spell the truth ?

Add 1+1 it will equal 2...

 

«We know that brain are not a vegetable but are we sure? After all i have seen many brain  in a  decorative glass jar»-Groucho Marx 🤓

If you listen to the news, you would go around believing all the unvaccinated are already dead. Not getting a Gene Altering Experimental vaccine is as good as a 100% guaranteed Death Sentence. 

 

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated.....wait......it's no longer that????

It's been rebranded? To what......

Pandemic of the Unboosted?.....but I thought the vaccines were God's gift to man, and were 100% effective 95% of the time? what happened...

 

You might want a refresher on how statistics work as well before spouting them in public. 
 

Oh well I bet you are an awesome hockey player. Used to play myself. More street than ice. Got some scars to prove it. Baa!

@mapman Face off in 5 so. 97X with a variant that is -91% fatal.

Yep my misinformation.

See how that worked.

Go with God.