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@johnto
I was also thinking something like this..
if you do not mind...how far are your Maggies from the front wall ?
I was also thinking something like this..
if you do not mind...how far are your Maggies from the front wall ?
thanks
@johnto I was also thinking something like this.. if you do not mind...how far are your Maggies from the front wall ? |
I have listened to Audio Note speakers on many occasions, not interested at all... to my ears they are veiled and fail to image realistically due to their almost total lack of depth portrayal ( is this surprising since they are designed to be listened to right up against the wall...what's up with that??) That, plus their pricing structure is way over the top IMHO. |
@jayh31 Take a look at my virtual system (the room) the acoutic panels in the room were recommended to me by GIK Acoustics. They looked at my A'Gon virtual system and with me on the phone with them they recommended 9 panels to add to my room. The consultation was FREE and the cost of the panels was $700 + $200 shipping from Atlanta to California. If you have a dedicated room and aesthetics are not a primary concern then I would recommend you call GIK because those panels work wonders. |
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I don't know if you would want to be locked into a particular manufacturer's products but I think the Steinway Lyngdorf line of speakers like the model S or O are spectacular in both sound and looks. Only problem is that you would need to use their amps exclusively AFAIK. Room perfect is the real deal in room correction and placement of the speakers wouldn't be an issue. |
Because you are talking about such options as stacked Quads, I take it you are not limiting your selection to tiny speakers for the tiny room. One of the better stacked quad setup I heard, that comes with an active crossover and dedicated EL34 amps for biamplification, is assembled by a firm named Emia. The system is big, and can play at shockingly high volume level, and I liked what I heard in a tiny hotel room at a show. It is not a Quad with more volume capability, so, you do have to hear it even if you generally like the sound of Quads. The recommendation of Charney speakers is dead on. They are amazing sounding, and work with the very low-powered tube amps which are the type of amplification I prefer (they are over 100 db/w efficient). The model I particularly liked had the AER driver and cost something like $18k. It is a plus that their systems are relatively compact. You could also be a candidate for custom-made speakers. Look up Deja Vu West (San Diego). It is a store affiliated with Deja Vu Audio (Northern Virginia) that builds its own speakers out of vintage and new drivers. Most of their systems are particularly suited for smaller rooms and can be tailored to match your circumstances. The price range for custom systems is very broad, but most are in the $30k to $80k range. |
The earlier mentioned Klipsch Heresy + dual JL Audio Fathom F112S sounds like a dynamite combo for a smaller room. I would venture into a different scenario with a pair of OMA Monitor’s and augment them with a pair of DIY limike’s PicoWrecker tapped horn subs. While those tapped horns aren’t small they’re rather slim (though tall), and should be placed in the corners flanking the Monitor’s. The PW's should hold their own against most any commercial subwoofer offering, but tapped horns just sound different (i.e.: better) to my ears compared to direct radiators. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/155-diy-speakers-subs/1654961-lilmike-s-picowrecker.html Forget about notions of "overkill" here; it’s an approximation to sufficient headroom, and well-integrated this setup would be a seriously musical, versatile and dynamically uninhibited. Alternatively, and somewhat cheaper, I'd recommend the JBL 4429 as mains, still in tandem with a pair of PicoWreckers. |
I have a pair of Charney Audio Companion Voxativ AF 2.6 in my 11x15x8 room. They will play very well in the 11x13 room your considering. Charney offers 3 different looks for the Companion and many different drivers to suit your taste, budget, and gear. Don't let the small size fool you these are serious speakers that deliver it all especially deep clean multi note bass. Do a search there are a few very positive comments from owners and show attendees around the web. http://charneyaudio.com/ |
Size of room is one thing, but how close are you sitting to the speakers? How far are the speakers from the wall behind them? Ported speakers don’t perform well in small rooms, so you might want to try plugging the ports if equipped and plugging is supported. I’d recommend near field monitors. Yamaha makes very nice near field monitors - HS5 and HS8 with an available active subwoofer with crossover. |
@keithr I think the little Gamut Rs3's are interesting, although i suspect they would NOT be a good match with my tube amps. A friend used to own the larger floorstanding model, it was a bear to drive and required a hefty ss amp. The Stenheim's seemed to me, at least in Long Beach, to be a little soft on top and diffuse in their imaging capabilities ( slightly). I am not sure I am a fan of a squared off metal cabinet...for this reason. |
I have a room about the same size as you do and the Legacy Audio Studio HD's work GREAT....I actually have compared the Legacy to KEF and the Paradigm bookshelf speakers and found the Legacy performed much better. The Legacy are some what heavier (about 32LBS ea) then most other bookshelf speakers that I have looked at. Frequency range is listed at 41-30k, with 91 db. This is a 4 Ohm speaker which can be order in multiple high grade finishes and it won't " break the bank " while doing so. |
Quads are a great idea! The speakers serviced by Kent in KC are supposed to be great. A friend is using stacked quads like this and he has had everything (even IRS) original Apogees, Dali Megaline etc. He uses the Spec Gear from Japan and loves them (see Jeff Day’s Blog) with his Quads. Where are you in Southern California? |
I have Focal Aria 926 speakers in a small room and they sound wonderful driven by two Schiit Vidar Monoblocks and a Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ / PreAmp. They will not overwhelm a small space but retain excellent detail, transparency, and fast response while remaining very neutral and not bass heavy (I find key for something like a small guest bedroom or study that is close to other bedrooms). All recommendations made thus far are great options, it comes down to your actual space, purpose, preference and parameters/limitations. Happy hunting! |
Focal Kanta 2. For some reason I never auditioned this one. Think I will before I buy the next speaker. http://www.tonepublications.com/review/focals-kanta-no-2-speakers/ Tipping the scale at just under 80 pounds each, the Kantas are extremely manageable. Only 44 inches tall and slightly more than 12 inches wide, they will be at home in all but the tiniest of rooms. Like any speaker, a little extra room to breathe is always a good thing, but the Kantas deliver excellent results in even our smallest listening room, measuring only 11 x 13 feet. Thanks to one of the two ports being front firing, this speaker is easy to place for optimum coupling to the room. |
@smodtactical I am going to do a home trial of the Persona 3F with an Luxman which should soften the top end. I expect this to be too big for my 12x11x9 room but it does not hurt to try the home demo. I was considering the Magico A3 before I heard the PErsona 3F. I thought the top was better integrated with the Persona and excluded the A3. For that same logic I am not looking at the A1. As I mentioned before something the size of the TAD ME1 is what will work best in a room my size but I want to try the 3F floorstander just in case it works without DSP. |
There are 3 which are as good, or better, than anything mentioned above at bargain prices! 1. Wavetouch Audio - Grand Teton or Antero. Simply superb sound in all respects. Free home trial. Best value and possibly best sound. 2. Proac Response D2. Also superb in all respects. And at a bargain price. 3. Legacy Audio Calibre. Also superb, but at a price. Or the Studio HD at a bargain price. If not these, go with the Gamut RS 3i, but at a ridiculous price. |