Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it.
You can fill n the blanks. Cheers
The Real Reason Why Music Is Getting Worse!!
I'm not a big Beato fan but he makes some good points at time. This is one of those times IMO. I know some of the younger generation will disagree with the whole premise. Being born in 1951 the boomer gen was hit with the same indictment about the new Rock & Roll music. There was some truth in it. But we didn't care because we liked R&R. I expect the same from some today who like today's music. but I think if you listen you may find some morsels which can be enlightening. This is especially true for musicians who may find they agree wholeheartedly..
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«Beato is an old dude crying... All is good at all times, to each his own.. music instrument are better with progress in technology ... Dulcimer is not progress nor the Veena, theramin is or electric guitar ... Or Piano over harpsichord... All is about My taste anyway ...
Period»
it is easy to resume thinking here ....
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Let’s face it! Our generation from ‘55 forward had real hits, that many even young people recognize today on YouTube. Music today can’t hold a candle to the 60’s, 70’s, and much of the 80’s. Today’s music, and I include rap, is all trash. Even the musicians can’t play! No Chicago, no BST, no Tower of Power, nothing but trash. And back in the day everyone played an instrument! |
@rkeeney "...I doubt there has ever been a time when old men [without self knowledge and wisdom] didn’t think music was getting worse."
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@coltrane1 you're being sarcastic, right? |
The reason I know the music today is crap is because of the 100s of music review channels of millenials and gen Z listening to music from the 60s-80s and being blown away by the actual music. The imperfections are what give music soul and they recognize it. No processing. Can you find soul today? Sometimes. But production kills it a lot of the time. |
I blame the proliferation of affordable electronic gear that made it possible for a bunch of "No Talent Bums" to be able to put their "product" into the mainstream ! People gravitate towards whatever is convenient but not necessarily valuable. A lot of garbage came from those home studios and now we are expected to call the preparators "artists" !
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None of my LPs have bar codes on them because I only buy records that were recorded and reproduced using analog equipment. Look at pictures of Rudy Gelder’s recording studio. His approach was the pinnacle of the art of recording music. I do listen to streamed hi-res music, but not if the beat has been put on a grid. Real musicians don’t allow technicians change their performances. Why the hell would a musician ever allow a technician change their performance? I understand splicing in a corrected note to a well-performed piece. However, that should be the limit to what recording engineers are allowed to do. Music should be recorded in a few takes, with the best take being chosen. And, from recording to the pressing of LPs, only analog equipment should be used. Then, the precious and life-enriching experience of music would be revealed. Listening to the stuff cranked out by technicians using all their tools to “perfect” music is like having sex with an inflatable doll; it’s a very sad substitute for the real thing. |
Track Comparison#1 Boomer Favorites VS The Unknown Youngins
Beatles - Hold Your Hand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jenWdylTtzs
Some unknown kid from New Zealand... Unknown Mortal Orchestra - The Garden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlkszyIgoBU Unknown Mortal Orchestra - Multi-Love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEtDVy55shI
Talent Score: Boomer = 0 Unknown Kid = 100
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i concur.
there is some truth here ...
there is some truth here also...
All of you are you three old boomers who squale about new music out of your decade ? This argument from old age is preposterous. i learned to love music from all corners of earth except the music programmed by the north-American music industry proposed for POP Chart listening and radio listening ...Then nobody can accuse me of being nostagic of the Beatles whom i never bought anyway even if they are good band with good songs...( at 20 i listened mostly Bach and Monteverdi and indian raga +Bob Dylan and Léo Ferré poetry)
Good music is not always popular anyway... Good Turkisch music so good could it be will not be popular in America ...neither Japan Jazz... Guess why ? It is because the sleepwalking public is conditioned and programmed to hear bad music and the bad music itself is manufactured one "hit" after the other...
I already suggested new contemporary music which is good and many others did also here... The fact that some contemporary popular music is relatively not bad or even good dont change the reasons why most popular music is worse now...
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@celtic66 Good one. Except I do not think the quote was from Cheers, haha. Always thought it would be cool if the cast from Seinfeld dropped into the Friends sometime. They were both from NYC. It only makes sense. . . Reminds me of one audiophile who put a picture of some uber expensive speakers on top of his.and pretended that was what he was listening to. |
@cdc ...'cuz it'd likely cause ink in the tabloids they'd rather do without? ;) Actors are just believable posers.....*L* Music....*mmmm* Tough, esp. when it rubs taste the wrong way. What to one set of head flaps is sheer noise is a 'tone poem' to another.... Yet, both may agree that last composition is Genius. I've that in my life and what I've played into it to amuse or restore.... Hi, @mahgister ...How's the the Great White North and you in the thick of it.... ;) |
@asvjerry agreed. I do not think writers have the skill to pull it off. |
Salutation my friend! We feel better here in winter and we are used to it... I hope all is good for you and send you my best wishes...
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In the morning I spend a couple hours painting. Typically I’ll put on my headphones and listen to a German internet station… 1FM Chillout and Chillout Lounge — I frequently end up stopping painting completely wrapped up in the music and and up bopping around paintbrushes in hand. Must be a really silly sight. I am often struck at how amazing and innovative the music is… it is so addictive and compelling… all of it sampled, autotuned and completely manufactured… what great innovative “non-musicians” we have producing music! |
I used to say that older music had melody and newer music does not (for the most part). So we used to be able to hum a tune. That changed around 1984 or so, when music became more technology based. They used a drum machine, keyboard and guitar. Less "humming" ensued. Music nowadays is far less "happy" in its mood than say, 30 years ago. Perhaps its down to the use of machines instead of actual instruments such as percussion, violins, trumpets (which I rarely hear in music any more). And, to my ears, so much of it is not soulful. I will say that I’ve noticed that the ’singers’ of today don’t so much SING as they simply accompany the tune to the end of that measure. Clearly, this is not everyone, but the voices themselves are pretty mediocre. I LONG to hear another Whitney Houston, or Matt Munro, or Etta James. Even a Bob Dylan (!) What I hear, for the most part, are singers who have a one octave range, with little nuance (of course, that could be part of the mechanical production) in their voice. They don’t ’cut loose’ as singers used to do, even rock ’n roll singers such as Mick Jagger (he’s got no voice, but he has ’soul’) or any of the rockers of the ’60s or ’70s. Music used to be full of exulting, hoarse joyousness, misery (Aretha Franklin ’I Ain’t Never Loved A Man’), wistfulness ( Mary Hopkins ’Those Were The Days’) or just plain ecstasy (Sam and Dave ’Hold On I’m Comin’!’). i just don’t hear those kind of emotional ’swings’ in music now. It seems more contained, more depressed, or just more...flatline. It would have been rare to turn on the radio in 1966 and not heard 10 different moods in the course of an hour of listening even to Top 40. Maybe it’s the programming, but the music now doesn’t have those kinds of moods front and center. (If it’s rock, then clearly it will be slightly different.) Where did all the ’emotion’ go in music? I feel like so many singers sound for all the world like a young ’un singing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" with all the skill that that ensues. And I come from a family with singers in them. There’s just so little real singing demonstrated in a casual listen of even Top 40 music. It so often sounds like a 'production,' not like a singer showing off their chops. And having said that, who ARE the great singers of today in pop, rock, jazz or blues? |
Are you serious? do you use music like people doing gymnastic in a gym as a rythm to enhance performance ? When we use our body like a machine working we may listen to A.I. created music perhaps but i will not call this great music.
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