Interested in buying this speaker, not sold on dealers only direct from VSA so can't audition it. Anybody own or listened to them? Please, your thought.
"But ultimately they did not impress me at all. Sorry if that offends you"
Hi Arkio - I'm hardly offended but I certainly was curious under what circumstances you heard a midbass hump. I suppose if they weren't tuned in correctly this is most possible but I never experienced this, thats all. It DOES seem that this thread has gone a bit off track but it wasn't my intent to contribute to that. I really don't like threads that turn into "mine is better than yours" nonsense. This forum is to share information and ideas and mine was nothing more than an inquiry. The fact that there are many choices available to us all is a good thing and I'm happy that you're satisfied with your choice, happy listening!
Yeah, lets get thing on track. The VR 33 is VSA's best selling speaker. According to Albert, on one pair was returned after the audition period. So there must be a lot of happy owners out there.
Chadnliz, what is up with that? I'm not trying to get into the a pissing match. I'm sure you could care less, and most of us could care less for your opinion at this point too. The fact that you responded to my post the way you did say a lot about you. To take my little comment and turn it into a a chest thumping type thing? Geez. So sorry for being a VSA fan boy. How dare I post something positive about the VR 33s in a VSA thread.
It just sounded petty and somewhat small minded to take an owners word for it, maybe its true or maybe its marketing but you lapped it up so go with your gut. Just as you say "how dare I" you dont like it when I say that while his speakers are not bad I think they are unremarkable....I mean my gosh.....how dare I? When you afford yourself sarcasm for your opinion you might do well to do the same for others. But you seem to think your opinion matters and mine isnt to be paid attention. I will try not to trip over the double standard as I exit the room. cheers
Sorry man, I'm not a message board warrior. I never went off on your opinion in the first place. I questioned it just like others, but I never said you were wrong about it or anything as I understand this hobby is purely subjective. Now I make a little comment about what the owner said and you say I act like a 4 year old and am petty and small minded. I just think that is a reach. Of course I'm going to say I don't care about your opinion at that point. On top of that, when you said they were unremarkable, you only heard them in a limited context. Again, of course your opinion is going to be disagreed with or questioned. But, I never said you were wrong about your opinion, how could I, it is yours. Like I said, All I was trying to do is get people talking about the the VSAs again not get into a pissing match.
Gopher, WE ARE taking speakers, don't ya get it, its a testosterone struggle of the fittest! It's always funny to me, these threads, honestly folks sometimes I think we take ourselves too seriously. Maybe we need to spend a bitta time with our "honey" before posting a strong rebuttal or making a point, give it time to relax a little, it might eliminate some of the horn ramming, silly indeed!
Chad, as long as you lust to keep this alive, please further enrich our lives, is your memory failing or are you just over your head?
08-18-06: Chadnliz The Eminent Tech are di pole so that may create another problem in a already bright room, unless it can be pulled far into the room, they are also very power hungry, the most of the bunch. I have not heard the VonII, but have the IV jr and SR...great speakers....the Eminent Techs were pretty nice when I demeod them 2 years ago, great for the money. Chadnliz (System | Threads | Answers | This Thread)
Yes in 5 years I have disovered so many great speakers it became obvious the VS speakers are unremarkable. But way cool life you lead trolling old threads lol.
Chad, I am glad your memory is intact. My original conclusion seems to be on the mark. I am glad that your own "way cool" life affords you the time to participate in so many threads. Very impressive. It is just too bad that a) you don't grasp the basic courtesies of this community, and b) you don't know or care if you have a meaningful basis to submit an opinion. Your inability to appreciate the reactions to your posts could be instructive for you, but it may require facts and thinking.
Your "way cool" life affords you the time to read my thousands of threads...so celebrate that and stop worrying so much about what and how I do things. Adopt a puppy, be a Big Brother, or whatever it takes to get me off your mind....its starting to feel akward. This is a thread about a speaker, not world peace, hunger, AIDS, war or anything like it...its about a box that makes noise, some like them and some just dont.....some even said about the company and his speakers "theres nothing wrong with them" (hell you got time....look it up). So lets chill out guy, your rage has me troubled.
The one thing you are right about is that this thread is only about a speaker. You seem to regard it as only being based on your opinion, and that noone else is as educated in the ways of audio as yourself. (I'm entitled to my opinion... WHAHHH!!!). Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Apparently there are several people on this thread that find you to be a tool. I agree. Don't "get your butt all puckered up" (your quote) about other's opinions as they seem to be well founded. It's just an opinion, it's not life and death, your mother or wife, etc. (more paraphrasing from the genius contributed to this thread) The thread was ready to drift away and you had to dig at the scab again. I personally couldn't give a hoot in hell about VS speakers and what others think about them. I don't own them and more than likely won't. However, I HAVE heard the model in question and certainly found it to be more than competitive in its price range and stated such. YOU have the time to post 14 times giving "expert" opinion on something you've never even heard. What a way cool life you lead. You're like listening to Arthur Fonzarelli. "I was wr, wr, wr, wr, wr, wr. Oh forget it, I was right, even though I was wr, wr, wr."
was it something I said?.....smile cause its a great life when this trivial stuff bugs you so much. Back to life, I will check back in with your insults later!
Chad, I don't care one way or the other about the speaker(s) in question. I'm just reading this thread for entertainment. But don't you get the distinct impression that most of the people in this thread wished you would just go away?
Well since you asked I guess it would be rude not to respond, yes some wish I would go away. They are the ones who cant come to grips with me saying that theres is nothing wrong with VS speakers but I just never found them remarkable. So your right there are some but I have been here years and years, been in thousands of threads and can assure you have witnessed much harsher opinions countless times but these fans are a touchy bunch...just exactly why is a mystery.
FWIW, I heard the VR 33s at RMAF (they may have been in more than one room, can't remember which one). I definitely don't mean to slam the speaker, and they may be just right for some people, but at that time I was looking for a near wall design, and they did not stay on my list. (Short impression: perfectly nice, but for me, not maximally involving). YMMV, but I do think the StereoMojo review linked above is overblown, and similarly for VSA's claim of a "15k speaker for 4k." At 4k, you might want to shop around; to pick a random comparison, I'd favor the Gallo 3.5s.
Obviously, your opinion is your own, and matters more than the opinions of people who will never hear your rig. For instance, many regard the bigger Vandys like the 5as as excellent (an assessment that has been proclaimed as certain knowledge on this thread) but I also crossed them off my list after audition (Short impression: perfectly nice, but for me, not maximally involving).
The VSA home demo policy seems to me very fair, and I'd take a chance if I were intrigued: shipping costs, but so does travel to auditions that will tell you less.
Chadnliz - allow me to extend a little grace to you, as I can relate to a little agitation toward "certain" manufactures that make big claims yet have a mediocre product. But it would have been best if you would have stuffed a a sock it on this one. Nothing productive has come from your decision to post your 'feelings' and opinions.
I have owned VR4 Jr Mk II's, but never heard the 33's so I can't comment. The Jr's were decent when I had them, but since then I've come a long way and wouldn't go near them again. However, this is not related to a VR33 so I'll be quiet now.
Glory, you missed the point, or at least my point. Chad has never heard the VR33 and said as much. Yet he still insisted on providing commentary on their sound. Jdoris posted a comment on 5/24 that he heard them and did not care for them. Not one person has posted refuting what Jdoris said about them in the three weeks since. You know why? He has heard the speaker, therefore his opinion is valid. That is what my point has been from the beginning.
Again I said I found Alberts speakers (in general and as a whole) to be IMO unremarkable. I didnt say they were bad I even said there is nothing wrong with them theres just nothing special about them. I figured this was long over but my name has been used again so I have the need and right to respond. I have read and participated in threads with far harsher statements then mine without this over the top reaction. Buy them if you like them, simple enough...right?
Kinda like you not letting go of this isnt your strong suit? I stand by what I said and if you cant handle that I suppose you will have to come to grips with it all.
Ironic? Hardly. I reply to those who just cant get over the fact that what I said was no big deal and nothing to get worked up about. So I replied when a post is directed at me. This thread died but you just cant get over it so have your last word cause its obvious you need that. The thread went 1 week then nearly 2 weeks with not one reply somehow you just had to be heard about nothing, bravo. I still dont think VS as a company does anything special and I still dont care if you get pissy about it. Time to man up and get over it.
I own the vr 35s and they are simply amazing good, stunning is a better word. Albert makes a great speaker. Albert is a scientist, engineer and musician, he has all of the skill sets to know how a speaker should sound.
I ended up buying the vons, no thanks to this miserable thread, and they are very nice, lifestyle friendly speakers. They do most things right though.the imaging isnt as sharp as ive experienced, intentional design.goal, and I enjoy more lively macrodynamocs. Choosing the right amp.helps.greatly though.
Overall ill lrobay hold on to these speakers for several years and.im.a chronic.gear roller.
In many ways I miss the Zu sound, but they were uglier, more intrusive in my living space and really difficult to set up right. I don't care how many people claim Zu speakers are easily setup--they're wrong, it takes a lot of time and effort. I spent 25% of my ownership trying to relocate the magic I had with my superflys after changing other variable sin the room. Inch by inch, days into weeks into months. It drove me nuts! That said, my system turned at least 4 Zu haters into believers, so maybethat time was well spent.
For the time being while I'm in my condo I'll probably continue using the very nice VR-33s. Down the road when this place sells I'll consider something like Druid Vs or Def 4s.
I highly recommend the Von Scweikert vr 35's. They are incredible and will compete with speakers 3-4 times there price. This is no joke. Albert can do a few upgrades and they are even better!!! I have heard many more expensive speakers (not all in my own home) and none have sounded as good. This includes many of the top brands.
When you say that Albert can do a few upgrades, can you comment on what and did you upgrade yours? Just being curious. I've had the VR-35s now for maybe 5 months and after they broke in, I've been extremely pleased.
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