TIDAL is calling their files of my songs Masters. But TIDAL’s MQA files are not my masters. I make my masters - not TIDAL. I made my masters the way I wanted them to sound. If TIDAL referred to their titles as TIDAL MASTERS, I would have no problem, but they don’t. They call them Masters. I had my music removed from that platform. They are not my masters.”.
Yes stick on a "legal" or "formal" expression on a single point and cover the general criminal situation...
very good tactic... 😁😊
congratulation...
Thats a pure "fiction" also you probably think that a universal agressive campaign against all prophylatic and treatment was put in place world wide and in the US ?
That’s pure fiction.
I am a silly conspirationist for sure because i claim that this campaign is evident for all eyes....
All truckers protesting agaisnt fascist states of North America, which resemble more and more to China every day, are idiots and you cleeds live in a "democracy" for sure... You own a gun and you are free i am sure...Biden or Trump were not dictators for sure nor Trudeau even if some of their actions is TOTALITARISM...They are not dictators you are right... The truckers know and me too that they are empty puppets..
But go on with blinders and point other debatable small points in teo post there is others, look for them, like a bird focussing on a worm oblivious of the predator over his head...
CDC and FDA (can’t remember who exactly sets these rules) are set up so that if a prophylactic exists for a given condition..then..experimental ’treatments’ for the contentious conditions, cannot go forward, and the known prophylactic goes forward
CDC and FDA (can’t remember who exactly sets these rules) are set up so that if a prophylactic exists for a given condition..then..experimental ’treatments’ for the contentious conditions, cannot go forward, and the known prophylactic goes forward.
This meant that if ivermectin was found to be effective, no mRNA experimental treatments would ever have been allowed to reach the public of the united states and thus their ability to be used across the entire would would have likely been shuttered and shunned by most of the world’s nation-state governing bodies.
Pfizer, for one, would probably be $200 billion dollars poorer at this time. Never mind all the rest of it that remains unspoken.
For mRNA treatments (they are not vaccines) to be allowed to be used on the citizens of the USA, in their experimental and unapproved form, Ivermectin would have to never be useful to treat covid. No evidence of ivermectin efficacy could ever officially reach the CDC/FDA pairing, at all. Or any other drug/product, either.
Thus, ivermectin was forced to be sidelined. As were others.
There is considerable data and news stories and reporting to illustrate that there was something big going on with regard to blocking all efforts that were outside of the approval of the mRNA treatments for experimental use on people.
Isn’t that just so darned interesting. It makes one think.
FYI ....at the least, there are three ex-heads of CDC/FDA departments, that are now directly on the boards of the major pharmaceutical corporations involved in the proffered experimental mRNA treatments.
There are dozens more interesting points out there about this situation, that do not appear in the mainstream news ~at all~.
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One of those points not found in the news:
IF...a mRNA treatment is finally given approval for use on humans, as an approved treatment, then the public of the united states can sue the given corporation that issued the mRNA treatment. The us public can sue the given pharmaceutical corporation for damages and injuries.
Pfizer mRNA product--- has been approved for use on humans.
But. A really big but.
Pfizer is ..apparently....still not issuing the approved mRNA treatment for humans, in the USA.
They are still issuing the experimental version, which they cannot be sued over the use of.
There exists a pathway for a pharmaceutical company to gain total immunity from being sued over the side effects or health effects of a given mRNA treatment.
That.... is when the given mRNA treatment (or actual vaccine or whatnot)is finally approved for use on ALL citizens of the USA, specially that of children, down to the level of being approved on newborns.
What do we see? We see the lack of issuance of the actual approved product which Pfizer could be sued over..., the quiet and continued distribution/use of the product that Pfizer can’t be sued over... and a tremendous push to gain approval for the use of the mRNA treatment on children and newborns.
The product is being made and used up all the time.
Pfizer could have issued and handed out approved and properly named/labelled vials of their approved product in almost minutes after approval, yet they have not done so.
There is no viable innocent looking reason for this situation of non-approved varieties still being the only ones in use and circulation, anywhere.
The question about the fact that he was or not a hippie make no sense, the essential point is that he is part of this generation like i was and Neil Young and i never really was an hippie myself but recognize my own generation in spite of that...
Second he is not ANTI vaxxer... You read too much propaganda...
An anti vaxxer is someone against all vaxx whatsoever any type and for all disease..
Propaganda assimilate anyone who READ and STUDY and decide to be not "Treated" by this genetic experiment NEVER experimented and studied for his potentioal high risks , which was imposed massively claiming FALSELY urgency because of the absence of treatment is now a PROVEN lie.. All existing treatment were censored... US is next after China in dictatotship... Canada also...
Why do you think the most pacific manifestation and the BIGGEST EVER of this kind in history and for the Guinness book with more than a million and half people at Ottawa and trucks convoy of 350 km long was organized? Awake...The world awake to censorship... Nowhere else censorship and propaganda repeated by the like of Neil Young is more evident than in North America...
Being a celebrity dont increase I.Q. It is the opposite guess why?
And Eric Clapton TAKE this mrna "Vaxx " and suffered greatly the side effects ...He was not and never was an antivaxxer save for Biden and Trudeau lunatics stance...His OPINI ON comes from the falsely claimed and falsely proven secured vaxx and from the heavy health consequenceshe suffered ...
This so called vaxx is not efficient, nor for disease transmission neither for eliminating the disease and less efficient than low cost treatment PROVEN efficient in Uttar Pradesh India for example with a population comparable to the US and no vaxx and NO MORE CASE ... Israel is more vaxx than the US and read the news, catastrophic number of cases....It is even easy to know why if we study scientist free to speak... A nobel price wil do the job if you are doubtful no ?
But for sure no TV journalists in america dont know even where is geographically Uttar Pradesh... American official journalists are all clowns not one reported this important news about Uttar Pradesh save Dr Malone on Joe Rogan boycotted by the mind TV programmed Neil Young..... The only good journalist are almost all free and almost unpaid in parallel media..
Then read before repeating the mantras conditioning formulas on Tv..
It is the same bulshitt in Canada where Trudeau called the truckers anti-vaxx, and a fringe monority of nazis and they were vaxx at 85 % and encouraged by millions of canadian all along their travel......
They are all AGAINST totalitarian Mandate forced on everyone and even woman which are pregant in some case which is a MEDICAL abomination ... Guess why ? without even a medical diploma you will stumble on the answer ...
More stupid than that measure is over my head...
Then think before posting that Antivaxx claims...Please...
I apologize for this rant but the actual world situation is critical ... Freedom cannot be negotiated...Medecine cannot be bought...Even by Bill Gates...
This vaxx make sense ONLY for old people and people with co morbidities... Nothing else but it must be a FREE choice with all the facts... And this is not the case...Ask Pfizer why?
@mahgister Eric Clapton is one of the all time great guitarists, but is a known anti-vaxxer.
@mahgisterEric Clapton is one of the all time great guitarists, but is a known anti-vaxxer. I was just saying Neil is a hippie- I never thought of Clapton as such. He is British….from the 60’s, but not a hippie. I wouldn’t consider the Beatles Hippies either. Think Woodstock…(before my time), .Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Jefferson Airplane, lots of drugs. The key was anti Vietnam war.
the guy on @mahgistervideo is an absolute idiot. Attempted comedy and failed miserably.
Neil has millions of fans and is one of very few true artists, although his politics are those of a sixties hippie. He can do whatever he wants and Spotify can do whatever it wants and Joe Rogan can do whatever he wants.
The usual outcome is follow the dollars, except in Neil's case. I'm 60, know Spotify, but never used it.....I do know that Sirius just put in a temporary Neil channel which is great. That should be permanent.
Some things are facts, some are opinions. Hard to distinguish sometimes, and TV news certainly doesn't make it any easier. Now, a lot of printed articles are categorized as "Opinion". Look for that - it is important to remember.
By the way, nevermind our political different perspective, i want to apologize because i used some inappropriate word about you on this other closed thread...
i dont change my mind about the subject matter but i regret my word about you in the fire of the discussion ...
While I've never been a big fan of Neil's music, I love that he IS passionate about the final sound of his music. Too many artists don't have control over the final sound, and are not thrilled with it, or simply don't care about it. My experience with MQA is that I don't find it to sound better than the non-MQA version (it's just a little different). Usually, the MQA version is a recent 'very loud' mastered version of an album, and if I'm able to find a 20yr old version of the same album, it sounds better with greater dynamic range, and thus more true to the original. I agree with the technical benefits of the MQA codec process, but I usually don't like mastering that they do before the encoding, so it's garbage in, garbage out. TIDAL is the only streaming service i've had so far, and it's OK, but it leaves me frustrated. I'm almost ready to try another. Their automated tracklists are stagnant and repetitive. The Track Radio feature could be great, but its selections are very narrow, and don't change enough from day to day. I don't understand how, with millions of songs to choose from, what it chooses to play for me is boring.
grab em by the free world....well i don’t think King Dotard who hijacked the song said that...he did say something else...
and i know the stacked set of monitors he uses ( for the spl ) and who delivered them to his studio and how revealing they are....fun, he can still hear..and discern..
Sorry to be this "real", but Neil is far from a recording perfectionist so I doubt there is any discernible difference between his "masters" and Tidal's offerings. It sound's like Neil's getting to be a bit of a curmudgeon in his old age.
I believe you’re still missing the point. As you say, none of that matters when you cut to the chase. It’s a business at the end of the day. How an artist gets paid. That’s his prerogative on how he negotiates his contract to get paid. His finances should be the last thing I need to worry about. That’s what his attorneys are for. What’s funny is that I remember similar conversations about the argument on the rights to SACD and before that CD’s. Oh, and don’t forget about the IPod classic. I remember when Wadia came out with a docking station and all of a sudden we were all in. It’s amazing how we forget about our past. Another point is you can have what one may call the best Board/ recording engineers in the world but 2 individuals will here the same song at the same time differently. It’s how we absorb and process information different from one another. It’s human motor learning behavior. Who are we to force our notion of what’s right or the best with music, engineers, artists, etc. The more I think about it, the more we are approaching the art world on how we think and discriminate an artist, their music, the composer, etc. Enjoy you music however you like because I definitely do. Being a former DJ who can appreciate all types of music allows me to be a sponge and absorb information. For the newbies who are getting into HiFi Audio, it’s great to ask questions or get specific opinions but at the end of the day, it’s your money. Spend it how you want. Don’t get caught up in the theatricals. PS I listen to TIDAL, Qobuz With MQA and Hi Res, Albums with a Turntable, CD’s (Redbook & SACD), Reel to Reel and Tuner (FM Radio, HD). I’m very flexible and enjoy switching from one source to another. I have a pretty extensive system and I’m very fortunate.
Some artists really do care and that’s one of the reasons there is so much information on their recordings for hifi to recover for us. But more importantly it doesn’t matter whether they care or not so long as the detail is there to recover. The recording engineers care. Qobuz cares, as do other hi-res order prividers. We care. So listen to their best sound over and over again at home. On great hifi- that’s what it is for. .
I just wish any streaming service with really good audio had a jazz channel as good as XM/Sirius. I will sacrifice quality of sound for quality of programming. Life could be worse.
Let’s cut to the chase here. This is not about sound. It’s about getting paid. Let’s just be honest here. At the end of the day, that’s what the artist is truly after. I can’t blame Neil because that’s how he makes a living. I just don’t settle for BS. To tell you the truth, most artists could care less about HiFi or Hi End Audio (Equipment). If they are a guitarist, that’s their focal. If they are a drummer, they typically only care about their drums. This is the truth. Spend time with these artists, and you will see. I have very close friends that went to The Juilliard School. They will tell you straight up. Folks, don’t believe the BS unless you were born yesterday. It’s really sad folks try to push this nonsense. Like I said, it’s a business and I do understand his position about money and how he makes it and gets paid. Don’t try to sell smoke and mirrors because they truly don’t care how you listen to music, they only care about how you are gonna pay for it. If you want to strive for what they call their best sound, go see them in person (at a concert).
Kudos to Mr. Young. It’s not about the quality of the file or the format. It’s about misrepresentation. When someone says it’s the Master, it should mean The Master, not some version of the Master. That "semantic" plays into getting more people to download the music than without it, which profits the company. I’m on NY’s side.
After NY's recent 50th Anniversary "reissue" (with a small "r") vinyl, and its lame price, plus promoting it on Qobuz as a reissue to get plays, well, I was pretty much done with him. What will he stoop to next to make more stinkin money? IMHO, this is pretty messed up. What a freakin marketing deal this is. Old Hippy?? Really? He's a walking contradiction. I've got most all his vinyl I bought in the seventies and eighties, so I'll just enjoy those. I'm glad I bought them, and I love his old music.
Several years ago I met Mr. Stuart at an audio show introducing TIDAL. I had a question. Since the bitrate supported, speed and bandwidth of the interweb was increasing exponentially, and solid state storage was shrinking in price, I asked him how long it would be before true hi resolution master files could be streamed natively. I also asked him when that day came, what would that do to his business? He had no answer then. Today, reality is pressing on his business. I guess that is the answer.
Hmm well no Neil Young on Tidal is a big downer. It’s not such a big deal. Just work it out IMHO. Call it whatever makes everyone happy. As long as it’s there and sounds good. Nobody really cares about the politics. Everyone needs a chill pill.
He plays whatever the hell he likes at solo concerts and couldn't care less what anybody thinks. I bet he thinks if right before he plays it. When he is with Crazy Horse it's more planned.
I'ver seen him probably 8 or more times and each time is different. The short tours are the best. I have several of his most popular/best albums and sometimes I only know half the songs. Plus he'll play a cover or two that is always better than the original.
He is the real deal. No BS - as he says, "what you see is what you get".
I don't think he is the best businessman. Kind of a hippie with money. I'm sure he lost a ton trying to fight Apple with that Pono thing for better quality. He is a true artist and cares tremendously about quality of records, sound at concerts, etc.
Some of you guys should be ashamed with the rudness and the ignorance.
Firstly, he’s Neil Young. American Citizen, cultural icon, a success with a net worth between 50 and 80 million. More than you made I bet.
One of the greatest artists of his era or any era. His guitars and amps are all about sound quality. His records are too. He was an early adopter of Pacific Microsonics. Neil KNOWS GREAT TONE. And you ? Who are you? Internet trolls with spending money for HI Fi. You are consumers, nothing more.
More importantly the truth is the truth, and there is no room for compromise or mincing words with the truth. Five solid years of 45 lying daily should have us all on the side of truth telling by now.
MQA is NOT a brand name. It is sold to be AUTHENTICATED BY THE MASTERING ENGINEER in the mastering room. And that’s a lie. The blue light means nothing but distortion added on top of the master. The actual master is the sample depth and bit rate of the mastering session. There is nothing better, full stop. There are some great sounding 16/44.1 masters out there from the 80s. The numbers mean nothing much to quality.
MQA is sold to be fixing PCM and closer to the source and that’s a lie. After years of Bob Stuart saying PCM was all anyone needs to hear everything, he changed his tune for cash. Sad end to a good life.
It’s an open filter on the top end resulting in some harmonic distortion you might enjoy ... yet it’s changing the sound that was approved by the production team and the artists, to make Bob and Co. money after Netflix killed their DVD $$$. It’s a bold scam and it’s rude and it’s unscrupulous.
Instead I read ... Neil is "petty and jealous". Neil should "Go to Hell". Neil should have played what you wanted in a concert. Pathetic.
Rude.
Stay in your lane men, Neil is correct and has the principles you lack.
Yes, Qobuz shows over 300 Neil Young albums. Plenty are hi-res and although I do enjoy some of his work over the years, I don't care what ole Neil thinks about politics outside of the music industry.
Some years back, I saw Neil Young at Madison Square Garden. Good show but he didn't play "Rocking in the Free World." I think he doesn't like how the "anthem" was adopted by people who love America. On the way out, I said amidst the departing crowd, how could he not play it?
A little girl of about five atop her father's shoulders heard me and replied, "Me too, it's my favorite song."
Her disappointment has stayed with me all these years later. So Neil, it's your music, do what you like. Qobuz it is.
Vinyl is forever! (unless you melt it or damage it yourself). He rereleased all his best albums on vinyl a couple years ago and they sound great.
Neil is quite grumpy, but he's an old man. He should have a better outlook being married to Darryl Hannah. Don't know what Jackson Browne was thinking....
There's been a rumor for years that Tidal is hurting. So what! Who listens to Neil Young with all of his ranting on politics and audio? Not me. As for Tidal/Qobuz, I find Tidal to have better SQ, as well as MQA albums over Qobuz and Amazon. Now with the Best Buy discount, that much better
If you can get your hands on the BluRay release of Neil Young Archives Vol. I you’ll find the sound as good as it gets. big disappointment to me he abandoned that format.
Hello, I might get rid of Tidal after my subscription runs out in a year. It’s too expensive to pay full price. My DAC reads out the resolution of the track. Half are in CD Redbook. If they don’t offer an extension I will go to Qobuz. I also have Amazon HD. With prime it’s not much more. I can have CD through Amazon plus a huge collection and Qobuz for HiRez. Mr Young is a very serious musician and is proud of his accomplishments. I have seen him around the vineyard. He is really an every day guy.
It's misleading to say Tidal is charging a premium for Masters or MQA. The premium service is for lossless (non-compressed) streaming, which includes MQA when it's available. I've been paying for the premium service since before MQA was available because MP3s are not audiophile quality files. MQA, when it came around, was a bonus.
Thankfully, I have a lot of Neil Young on CD and hence in my music server. These squabbles are irritating though so hopefully they can work through it. I use Tidal without MQA and get along fine.
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