NY Audio Show

missioncoonery said: "anyone know anything about it"

I hear Tekton is in the main room this year, don’t miss it.

If they don't the should require vaxx. 

@jond 

Do you realize that you have ZERO clue what you’re talking about? What you call “tragic anecdotes” is happening EVERY SINGLE DAY in NYC…but I guess if you don’t read about it on Facebook it never really happened. 

Dude crime happens all over including NYC yes. No one's disputing that, I see my point sailed way over your head.

Hundreds or thousands of people winding round narrow hotel corridors and bunching in small unventilated rooms heated by overcrowding and big amps is a sure COVID spreader, masks or no masks.

Take sub-aqua breathing gear or stay VERY WELL CLEAR.

Our listening room is open by appointment only in northern New Jersey if you want to really have time to listen and bring your own material  Coming next week are Vivid speakers.  We are excited  PM me if you want to schedule some time

Happy Listening

I'm going with a friend. The ladies are going shopping. I'm hoping to stop by Soundsmith on the way to listen to the strain gauge cartridge. 

I can report on it afterwards if people want.

That was exhausting.   
I think I'm going to take up painting. 

Dill....I hear Tekton is in the main room this year, don’t miss it.......You heard wrong ,Tekton is being displayed in the Trump room. The promoters used gerrymandering tactics setting up the show so it maybe hard to find.

I am exhibiting at NY Audio Show in room 703.  They just sent out invoices last week to those of us exhibiting.  As people are paying now, I assume that is why they haven't published an exhibitor schedule yet.  

It is NOT going to be in a tiny NY hotel but is going to be in a conference center with large hallways and very large rooms by audio show standards.  

My understanding is the rules will be the same as for Capital Audiofest which is proof of vaccination or a negative test.  The rules are driven by local ordinances.  The balance of this debate around politics is pointless and moot.  The rules are the rules so we either follow them or don't go. 

I know plenty of people who are going, good for them.  If you choose not to, good for you.  Whatever makes you happiest.  If you are going, hope to see you at the show.   

@verdantaudio see you at the Capital Audiofest!

@joUnfortunately I am not going to be at CAF this year.  We have a family wedding that weekend that I can’t miss.  

I have really enjoyed this thread! I like that this site allows people to communicate their beliefs along with their audio opinions. I am certainly not for ignorance, aggression or bullying.

I have always considered myself a moderate. Pretty much right down the center. I do believe that in recent years the mainstream left has moved further in that direction. Some now consider my views to be far right and extremely conservative. I assure you that they are not. I have enjoyed both sides of this discussion. I love New York City. I think it is a great place to visit. Prior to Covid we traveled from Philadelphia several times a year for concerts, shows, and a good meal! I cannot speak to what it has become since Covid. I also have no problem with proof of vaccine or a recent negative test. Don’t get me started about masks. I find it absurd that you have to wear a mask when entering a restaurant, but as soon as you are seated you can remove it. Does Covid know not to attack you at your table. Is it only dangerous when you were waiting in line or in the lobby? I saw steely Dan at the Met in Philadelphia the other night. Vaccine cards or negative tests were required. So were masks. Everyone wore a mask when entering. Prior to the show I would estimate about 50% of the people had their mask on. Most improperly, under their nose or hanging from one ear… Etc. by the end of the show I would estimate that about 10% of the people were wearing their masks at all. The ushers we’re not concerned. They were more concerned that you did not have your phone out as the artist did not want phones in the auditorium. I purchased two 5 dollar cans of water from the Alps so that I could sip them and not have to wear the mask. It was probably unnecessary, but staying hydrated was good.

I appreciate all of the opinions here, both audio and political. Let’s just try and keep it civil.

I am apparently under the mistaken impression this was an audio based thread.  

Shouldn't we be fighting over tubes vs solid state or digital vs analog or how much better my dad's system is than your dad's???

The web site has "TBD" for time / date / location, yet at the bottom of the page there is all 3. This with one month to go. No mention of ticketing info either. Seems more than a little amateurish. 

And, FYI, the ragging on NYC and the politics is just embarrassing. 

MC wrote “What is inexplicable is why anyone would remove a perfectly fine post simply because someone is, what? Jealous? Micro-offended? More than likely.”
You wish! I can go to Best Buy and look at the equipment you own. Get over yourself. You are right and in this case very right, you state you won’t see equipment like yours at audio shows. I have been going to CES, The SHOW, RMAF and others for decades and all of them have very good quality systems, something that we wouldn’t see at your place.

Can’t help but picture a pile of 750,000 dead Americans who had “the sniffles.”

New York is great. The population density requires public health measures that are not as critical in lower density areas. 

Given some posts here, mental health measures critical. 😄

You wish! I can go to Best Buy and look at the equipment you own. Get over yourself. You are right and in this case very right, you state you won’t see equipment like yours at audio shows. I have been going to CES, The SHOW, RMAF and others for decades and all of them have very good quality systems, something that we wouldn’t see at your place....Pretty dam funny,lmao

@verdantaudio  , We are exhibiting   in NY Audio show also   room 706, 

Reading this thread, I'm disgusted, but hardly surprised, to find anti-vaxxers & MAGA types spouting the usual hate babble.

You hate New York? You hate having to show proof of vaccination? Good. Don't come to New York. 

As for not getting sick & not dying if you do (because you refuse vaccination) ... good luck with that. Please pay for all medical care with a credit card or cashier's check. 

@desktopguy,
Unfortunately, this place has become a safe space for crisis actors and Karens. The mods even come across like Karens at times as well, leaving up some very nasty MAGA crap and deleting the rebuttals, but hey, this place is based in Texas.

That's not to disparage the good citizens of that state but the people who run it and the business model they prefer.

All the best,
Nonoise

Nonoise
Well desktop says if you dont like New York dont visit. Fair enough. Why not leave if you think the moderators are not even-handed. Certainly you are one of the greatest "haters" at least regarding Trumpers and the alt. right. But I guess hating is fine as long as you hate the appropriate crowd. You are not offended by this forum. In fact you relish the opportunity to state your beliefs. Why deny those who disagree the same indulgence?

Hate speech my a*s. These days it is all hate speech. Equal amounts from each side of center.

@audition__audio Nonoise is a defender of truth and tireless refuter of propaganda. I support his posts. 

As you should if you think he is correct in his beliefs. However supporting his demeaning attitude you do so at your peril and at the peril of this country. The peril arises not out of what he believes as much as how he presents these beliefs and the viciousness of his defense . He and those he hates arent willing to compromise and arent willing to discuss. Make no mistake, the extremes on both sides are not driven by logic or a desire for justice they are driven by nothing other than hate and emotion.

There are plenty of political forums elsewhere for you all to spew.  Please stop making the moderators work so hard!   

What a turnoff...

You are correct. I need to stop and will do my best to avoid such involvement in the future. Probably not the proper place.

To state the obvious, the one you all claiming to be the hater stopped responding on the first page and this nonsense continued for 2 more pages with insults directed at him.  Great control on his behalf after multiple unnecessary attacks.   Might want to check yourself.  What a joke.

I member in question, for me, is Nonoise. I think you will find him on all 3 pages. Who is the member with such great control? Dont want to make him feel slighted or unloved.

Wow.  So many reasons to be disappointed by this thread.  
There’s no shortage of hate these days, guys and gals.  So why create more?  Listening to music and pursuing the perfect reproduction of Live is inherently a beautiful thing.  But it's not infallible.  Let’s try to keep left, right, and center limited to channels here.   I get it — for some people, anger is delicious.   But not everything that’s delicious is good for us.  Personally, I put anger in the same category as high fructose corn syrup — neither one benefits our life experience.  
Let’s dial it down a notch.  This a hobby that brings great pleasure to us all.   I don’t come here to stoke the fire within me.   Quite the opposite.  A little awareness goes a long way. 
I keep my politics as far away from my hobbies as I can.  It takes effort sometimes.  But I’m better for the practice.   

nonoise7,802 posts10-29-2021 8:37pm@desktopguy,
Unfortunately, this place has become a safe space for crisis actors and Karens. The mods even come across like Karens at times as well, leaving up some very nasty MAGA crap and deleting the rebuttals, but hey, this place is based in Texas.

That’s not to disparage the good citizens of that state but the people who run it and the business model they prefer.

All the best,
Nonoise

You need to look up the definition of ’Karen’.

What does Karen mean?

Karen is a pejorative slang term for an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her privilege to get her way or police other people’s behaviors.

And there’s only one group that has ever needed a ’safe space’. Or for that matter, felt compelled to police other people’s behaviors.

Lindo,
Well said.

nonoise - "The real Einstein was never asked that in his life 👍" Tesla debunked gravity and said Einstein was a shill. TRUE (no offense meant or directed towards millercarbon, at all)

Smart people want to understand the truth. Smart people LIKE to admit they were wrong. Some would rather hone their debating skills in which is not questionable as to why.

@isochronism So you're now saying you don't believe in gravity?

Gotta love @audition__audio ’s attack on me for responding to the outrageous stuff posted on here. I guess he’s fine with the alt right hate spewed around here like it was farcebook instead of an audio site but I guess it shows where he stands.

As for the use of "Karen", in case you’ve missed it, the use of "Chad" fell out of favor a while back and they’re now known as male Karens since they were making all the headlines anyway. Besides, sometimes it’s fun to sink down to others levels since that’s the only way to reach them, and it looks like I did. 👍

And as for my leaving if I don’t like it, how better to describe this as your safe space, Karen.

All the best,
Nonoie

Tesla was wrong about relativity.

New York, California, New Jersey, and a few other states PAY for this country. You “fly over” states mock us for our high tax rates, but the truth is if we didn’t pay the high tax rates we pay to subsidize y’all, YOU’D be paying MUCH higher taxes to sustain your money-losing states. It’s the great irony that WE in the more populous states support YOU through our higher taxes get derided for paying higher taxes to support YOU. Better you just say “THANK YOU” for us paying for you to live your low-cost lives. Or, better yet, just pony up and start paying more taxes to make your state sustainable WITHOUT NEEDING OUR help. But to criticize US for subsidizing YOU??? F off you ignorant wretch!!!

jond, If an empty balloon is dropped it falls. It is heavier than air. The same balloon with one cubic foot of air will fall a bit slower, less heavy. If the same balloon is filled with helium, why does it instead go up? "Gravity" should recognize it as yet just another filled balloon. 

Well not to bring politics into this but after Biden gives every immigrant who came into this country from Mexico $450,000 each ...there will be no money for the citizens who need in here.....case closed.Think about it $450,000 Each....One million dollars for a family of 4.....Welcome to America 

They could all become instant-audiophiles!!

Limomangus, it is not hard to understand what this ALL is about. Sad to say that some are STILL hoodwinked.

Well not to bring politics into this but after Biden gives every immigrant who came into this country from Mexico $450,000 each ...there will be no money for the citizens who need in here.....case closed.Think about it $450,000 Each....One million dollars for a family of 4.....Welcome to America...................................................



...Stop spewing Fox news..thats the dumbest thing ive read in a long time..you honestly cant believe what you wrote,lol

Well not to bring politics into this but after Biden gives every immigrant who came into this country from Mexico $450,000 each ...there will be no money for the citizens who need in here.....case closed.Think about it $450,000 Each....One million dollars for a family of 4.....Welcome to America

That was from The Onion, right?

@missioncoonery and @nonoise hate to say it but even the Post is reporting it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/why-biden-administration-would-pay-much-450000-se...
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-outrage-compensation-payments-migrant-families-separation-joe-biden-don...

So just to be clear the amount has not been decided on yet and it's just for families who were cruelly separated by the Trump administration. They certainly deserve some compensation for the horrors they were forced to endure.

@isochronism Try jumping off a tall building and tell me whether gravity works or not after.

jond, I'd obviously be unable to report back. Again, I'm heavier than air. Although, you being full of hot air ... 😄

Leave it to a Karen to distort the facts. Imagine some authority taking your kid away from you for sadistic reasons meant to deter others and not seeing them for years. 

Ask any psychiatrist about the damage done to a child, let alone the parents. Those who were separated as part of that atrocity are being compensated.

If these were white families being torn apart they’d have better representation in court and you’d see even larger awards as well as prosecutions for what amounts to crimes against humanity.

Not every immigrant is being awarded that judgement.

But that’s all "lib" talk to a Karen, isn’t it?

All the best,
Nonoise

I can only assume those families want to hurry back home as quickly as possible, and avoid the U.S. like the plague, from here on out. What a giant craphole we are. What? They're all staying?? Weird.