Reasonably priced preamplifier


At some point in the future, I would like to own a preamplifier from either CH Precision or Soulution but looking at their prices, I do not think that it is going to happen soon. So, until such time, I wanted to ask from experienced users here if there are preamplifiers within 7-8k (used) range that are different from the herd and can provide similar kind of performance that CH or Soulution provides?

gopaljeen

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I have owned the DAC/Pre + PS 5 for 3+ years. I think Peter M worked for either CH or Solution. I have made many upgrades since then and can hear each clearly. You can find one occasionally < $1000

Audio Research SP6 is a formidable tube preamp. I bought mine for $675 along with a D75 amp for another $675. These are two classic pieces that are worth double what I paid!

Another tube preamp I bought was the made-in-Austrailia Trevor Lees with the black acrylic front panel and clear acrylic top cover. I think I paid less than $1K for it. Certainly a rare piece!

You can get a bespoke Aric Audio Motherlode preamp that will far exceed your expectations! Visit his website and call him.

One of the quietest SS preamps you can find is the Holo Audio Serene. It has some similar sonic characteristics as the CH I heard this summer. I own the Serene.

Though for many setups I had, I liked the Benchmark HPA4 or LA4 preamps more. I also have the HPA4 in the Office setup. The Serene is a bit warmer, and both are at the top end of quietness (at any price). 

The Serene is an easier recommendation since it has the tinge of warmth. It really goes well with all Class A amps I paired it with.

Counterpoint sa-2000 or sa-3000  each can be easily upgraded with fantastic results.

Happy Listening

Right now, PS Audio is selling their flagship preamplifier, the BHK Signature, at a closeout rate - half price. It's normally $7000. 

I assume this means they are about to introduce the revamped version sometime soon. I've had it for a few years now, and I find it almost perfect for me. It has a tube input, and solid state output. Five RCA inputs, and five balanced. Common sense balance control and a really good headphone amp. 

Anyway, if you are looking for a placeholder, this one would be better than average...

David

The Anthem STR is a phenomenal preamp for the price. Specs are great but the flexibility and sound characteristics are even better.

Try a Schiit Freya +, very highly regarded with more flexibility than the pricey stuff and has absolutely superb sound. Rated "class A" for a reason...it deserves it.

A couple years ago I ran through a series of highly regarded amplifiers. I'm a tube guy so keep that in mind, but I landed on ModWright, in particular their ls100. It's not fully balanced but Dan will put a transformer in it if you want. For me, this preamp is clear without being overly analytical, it's quiet, and it's musical as all hell. The only thing I dont like about it is the remote seems kinda cheap. The music room sells them and they have a pretty generous return policy. There are other models you might like better as well but I've been very impressed by Dan and his products

@gopaljeen  Townshend Audio Allegri Reference Passive preamp. There are a few lightly used ones for sale on us audio mart in your price range.

It has received many excellent reviews.

The PS Audio BHK is a very good choice for the price.  But if willing to pay the 7-8k pick an Audio Research ls28se.  In my opinion almost as good as a Ref6.

Pathos Incontrol MK II. Small Italian company with rich but neutral sound. It also has the advantage of low output impedance- which makes it easy to pair with SS amp. 
I am not in US but believe that Upscale Audio stock them. 
Good luck!

Any Jeff Rowland preamp. Works of art, quiet and quite reasonable in the used market. 

 7-8k is probably a high end amplifier not a reasonably priced one. Of course, if it's made of gold....

The Artic audio is a good recommendation, if you want something really different try the Space tech lab preamp that uses 845 tubes.

I have a 30K system and love my Audio-GD HE-1 XLR ..10 tube preamp with it's own regenerative power supply. $4500...a steal !

schiit freya is the deal of the Century. It's amazing what has been able to do with this, a high-quality product that's built really well.

Otherwise you could pay thousands for mystery boxes you have no idea what's inside them. Everything is way overpriced ..

I like Conrad Johnson and have a couple amplifiers including the gat 2. You could probably pick one up used for about 12,000 and it's worth stretching for. Very comfortable to listen to.  The solid amplifier you referred to very detailed and I'm not sure they are enjoyable to listen to. Freya is remarkable.  I'm not sure whether they're doing a higher grade version of it although they really don't need to I wish the company offered phone service but you can't talk to anyone but their email responses probably are OK at this point. I think they have a retail store in California someplace

The Chinese copy FM155 [or FM 255] preamps sound fantastic and are very cheap.Much better than a Schiit Freya for example.As they should be because the real things are around $20,000 and considered one of the best sounding preamps you can buy.

@mbmi  I have the same preamp. The Audio gd continues to blow me away with its clarity, focus, separation, and presence. 

 

@emergingsoul  I, too had the Schiit Freya+ before I stepped up to the Audio Gd. The Freya was really good. Schiit delivers way above their price point. Plenty of inputs and the passive option sounded pretty full. . It did run a bit hot. But I loved it.  Can't go wrong. But the Audio GD is in a different stratosphere. 

 

 

Do add the Musical Fidelity Ms8 preamp to your short list, very neutral, transparent and musical. 

Aesthetix, Janus Signature - pre-owned $6K-ish should be in the conversation

BAT VK-80 from Music Direct. Retails at $10K. They are on sale for $7K new. Sounds great, and a case and remote control that spent a lot of time with a CNC machine. 6H30 Super tubes.  Same tubes used by ARC and others, such as Rogue RP-9. 

I don't know if you prefer new or used.  I bought an Ayre Acoustics KX-5 Twenty for about $5300, new they run about $13K.  It's very clean, I can't believe how much I was missing, especially at the lower volume levels, very rich.  It has some of the pass down features of the flagship KX-R model.  

https://www.ayre.com/

 

 

gopaljeen

$7K to $8K will buy a brilliant preamp, and some of these are as good as you will find anywhere. They are definitely "different from the herd", stunningly hand built point to point wired, and use the highest quality components available. They are built by passionate and exacting designers, and are works of art.

Aric Audio Motherlode XL if you need XLR or Motherlode II if not. Don Sachs/Lynn Olson designed Raven preamp (sold through Spatial Audio). Supratek Cabernet 6SN7 or Grange.....all can be purchased for $6,500 or less.

For transparency, I own the Aric Audio Motherlode XL.....and it is extraordinary with both tube and solid state amps.

I have found pre's do not contribute as much dollar for dollar for me than amplifiers or speakers. The Benchmark and SPL Elector are both very neutral and quiet. New both can be had brand new for half what your budget is.

Rogue RP-1 ($1,795). 12AU7 buffer rounds out sound. Great phono stage if that's important to you. If you want a few more bells and whistles, check out the RP-3, RP-5 and RP-9

You are in the sweet spot for a used Allnic L 7000.

I’ve had a L 3000 then L 7000 and now L 8000.

The search ends with the L 8000.

 Check out the reviews , they are very accurate.

Audio Research SP-6, SP-8, SP-10; Counterpoint SA5000, SA3000; Audible Illusions  Modulus 3ii.  All $700-2000 range, all superb tube preamps.  All have excellent phono stages for MM cartridges.  Counterpoints can also be configured for MC cartridges but I have never used them that way.

I have 2 systems, one quite a margin over the other. They both involve separates, my pre amp for both is the Benchmark LA-4. Both solid state AMPS. Rock and Roll. Both preamps running balanced.   30 day trial period, made in NY. Ask RORY anything, very knowledgeable. Nice to deal with a  human, no phone tag. Robert TN

@gopaljeen If you were thinking of something capable of balanced operation, keep in mind that not all 'high end audio' preamps that are balanced actually support the balanced line standard (AKA AES48). It is that standard that allows the interconnect cables to be truly neutral. 

So its a good idea to ask about AES48 when looking at a balanced preamp. If the manufacturer does not know what that is, move on.

atmasphere

... keep in mind that not all 'high end audio' preamps that are balanced actually support the balanced line standard ...

That's true, although such balanced components still offer advantages over single ended designs.

I've tried a lot of preamps (Hegel P30, Holo Audio Serene, various Rogue Audio RP7 and RP9). My speakers have been Focal (earlier the Scala, now the Maestro Utopia).

The best I've found for the money is the VAC Renaissance Mk V. It is so musical / euphonic compared to the REF6. More important: on my system (Kubala Sosna Elation cabling), I seem to get better bass quality than the REF6.

The cool thing is to actually upgrade from this in VAC world, you need to spend a LOT more (to get the Master). This is why, IMHO, it is fantastic value for the money.

Holo Audio Serene and P30 are a few classes behind.