And if I'm not too late, I'll take 4 outlets. Thanks Albert. |
Albert,
Great job, and thanks. I will try to dive under the wire for (2) receptacles. If too late, maybe next time.
I am just installing a dedicated line...
Charlie |
Albert, Money Order is in the Mail. Thank You, Again. AaronM |
Hello Albert: I hope I'm not too late... I just read this post about the treated recepticles and it's quite timely as I recently picked up 5 Hubble HBL8300W's (not installed yet) and was planning to have the electrician out next week to run 5 dedicated circuts. Your offer is very kind, and if I'm not too late, I would certainly like to purchase 5 of them. I'll email you next for an address to send payment. Thanks again! Ken Gootkin |
I will email both Eric (Mephisto) and Tomryan with information and let them decide if there is time.
Please understand that the cut off date was announced here at Audiogon as Halloween. This is to be fair to all those who have paid their money and are now waiting for me to proceed.
Any payments not received by the cut off date go into a second run (if enough people are interested) or payments returned.
I hope everyone understands. |
I'd also like to get two outlets, if still available. Let me know how to do it and where to mail the check. Thanks. |
Great concept and execution! I'd like two, if not too late. |
Hi Albert,
If it's not too late, I'd be interested in three of those. Let me know how to proceed for payment. Thanks,
Eric |
Hi Albert, I would like to purchase two. Please advise how much I owe and how can I pay you? Regards, Andrew |
If there's still time, please put me down for one outlet. and I'll send payment express. Thanks a million. |
Put me down for two if it's not too late. |
I wanted to remind everyone that I promised the cut off time for orders would be Halloween.
I think everyone who said they wanted to participate has already responded, but I will wait a few days to be sure no one is left out.
Thanks to all who wrote personal notes to me. I really appreciate the kind remarks. |
Maxgain, Sean had a post a while ago that talked about how to make a homemade cable cooker. If you can't find it by doing a search, email him. No offense meant to anyone on this post (or site) but that’s why I chose to purchase a Hubbell from someone who has put three months or more researching the best receptacle, the best method of cryogenic processing/temperature/number of hours, etc. That’s not to mention beta-testing with 5 individuals including 3 reviewers who already owned other cryogenically treated outlets. Finally, he cooks them on a cable cooker for four days. For that magic recipe I don’t mind paying a little more, knowing that what I have is the real thing and not a product that might not work to 100% of its ability. The only reason I point this out is because I have done a lot of A/B testing and blind testing and believe one’s best intentions could possibly provide a cryogenically treated outlet that sounds harsh for 30 days or is less than what it could have been depending on how it’s cryogenically treated and broken in. |
good thinking, Rprince. I have hardwood everywhere but in the listening room so most of it only gets dusted, so....hum? Maxgain leaves and comes back with the stainless steel Waring pro bar blender. Hum? lets see how much Hornitos will I need? Gotta run, need some limes! |
Maxgain: Do a lot of vacuuming of the house. In my case, it'll earn a lot of points with my wife too! Just can't let her see the extension cords when I'm vacuuming upstairs from the downstairs outlet! |
Lak, 30 days is a long time to listen to "VERY HARSH". I don't have and none of my audiophile buddies have a cooker. Any sugestions? I could hook them up somewhere else I guess and plug something into them? |
Albert
please put me down for two duplex recepticles and add me to your email list so I can expediate payment
thanks for all your efforts
Tom |
Albert, put me down for two. If I buy these I will finally have one thing as good as what you have. Can you imagine what a high that would be for me. Besides, if I can do anything to help Albert, I will! |
I'm in for two so whatever works best for you is ok by me.Thank you Albert. |
Hey guys, remember this: If you don't burn in your cryoed outlets for 96 hours on a good cable cooker or something similar, they will sound VARY HARSH for about 30 days. If you do use some type of cable cooker it will still take several days of use for the outlet to settle in! |
Jeez: Glad to see it's just outlets.
When I first looked @ the title of this thread I thought that Albert was shilling Girl Scout cookies again. |
Albert, I'll take 2 as well. A very kind gesture indeed!
I'll be interested to see how the "AP-50" units compare to my non-cryoed Wattgate 381...
I agree with Sean in that you should set a flat price per outlet that would realistically cover all of your mailing and insurance costs, promote efficient bookkeeping, and avoid the hassle of slicing up pennies for shipping differences. |
What ever works best for Albert is my vote. He is the one doing us the favor. If you need a hand with the packing/mailing leg work let me know, we seem to live in the same town. I hope you know what you have gotten your self into..:)
I can't wait to sell NASA approved super duper anti gravity dohickies on ebay. I'm only kidding...
Thanks again Marty |
My $$ is already in the mail. Just wanted to also thank Grandpoobah for initiating the Post. Lots of luck to you Albert on completing this project. You guys are Great! |
Thanks Sean and others who have suggested cut off dates. Two to four weeks came to my mind too.
On shipping, my FedEx rate charts were my start point. FedEx labels can be generated on line and printed from my computer. Tracking numbers would allow us to track orders, and insurance is reasonable when compared to USPS.
Maybe Halloween should be the cut off. It's beyond the two week mark and a date everyone remembers.
If everyone showing interest has responded before then, perhaps I should announce here at this post and move on with the project. I would like to turn it in a reasonable time so it remains fun and hassle free. |
I second the 2 week cut off date. That should be enough time for any interested party to get the money order to Albert and not let his kind offer drag on too long. |
Put me down for 2.
Thanks Mike. |
I would think that two weeks would be good. This would allow people another paycheck to come up with the cash and a week for transit in the mail.
I would only suggest to Albert that he come up with some type of a plan on how to ship to the end user. Since i have gone through something similar before, my suggestion is to use USPS Priority Mail. Not only will they provide you with all of the boxes that you need for free, the cost of shipping is reasonable and they will deliver to P.O. Boxes whereas UPS, Fed Ex, etc... won't. Transit time using Priority Mail is typically three days depending on how far it has to go. Obviously, there are exceptions to any example, but this has been my experience for most instances.
Besides all of this, Albert needs to think about covering shipping costs to the individuals that have ordered them. His price above covers purchase of the outlets and shipping to and from the Cryo facility. This means that there is an additional fee to send them out to the individual. Since each individual lives in a different place and may have different weigths ( more or fewer outlets ), it will be hard for him to come up with a way to estimate cost on an individual basis. As such, i would recommend a flat rate for each individual outlet.
Since Priority Mail is a flat rate up to 2 lbs, i would think that this would cover at least a couple of outlets. If one were to tack insurance on top of this, it would be more AND this would give Albert a way to verify that the package was delivered. After all, insured packages must be signed for so nobody could try to pull a fast one and say that they never got theirs and get a few "freebies" on top of the ones that they paid for. While i'm hoping that nobody here would do such a thing, i know that Albert is honourable enough to try and make things "right" even if they were already "right" to begin with.
On top of this, i would recommend sending Albert a "love offering". While it is very "nice" of him to go out of his way to do this, this type of project eats up WAY more time that one thinks it does. You have to sort out the individual orders, pack them up individually , address each box individually, fill out the insurance forms individually, etc... Then you have to tote everything up to the post office, etc... As i said, it eats up a LOT of time since you have dozens of individual orders to take care of. Sean > |
One vote for Oct. 31st.
Thanks Albert. |
Albert,
In response to your last post I would feel very comfortable with you setting the cut off date. You will best be able to judge when interest in slowing and it's time to place the order. I know for me, if you said one week or one month, it's OK. You're doing a great service for all of us and I would be surprised if anyone would question your judgement.
So Audiogoner's, do I hear any seconds on letting Albert set the time frame for this project? |
Since you called for a vote, I would vote for November 15. That gives everyone a little over a month to get their payment to you and to work out logistics. |
I got a lot of confirming emails today with agreements to send payment to make this purchase.
Those who have not yet responded by email, please do. My response is the same to everyone and you get my address and a copy of the ship rates.
Orders need to be based on prepayment. That way additions (or deletions) will match only what people need and have paid for.
The next issue is when to set as a cut off date.
Set too far in the future, early respondents will wait longer for product. Set too short, mailed payments may not have arrived in time, stranding some Audiogoners who expect to be included.
We need an open vote and agree openly and to all, as to a fair date that payment must be received by me.
Then the project will proceed on a schedule known to everyone ! |
Albert - My humble thanks to you, sir. I would like to join in for 4 outlets. |
Put me down for one duplex outlet |
Albert!
what a guy.
If there's any left (not sure if fifty was the minimum or the max) count me in for 2.
Thanks. I nominate Albert Porter for president of SAAG. (Seriously Addicted Audiophiles Guild)
Joe |
Albert,I'm down for 3 as per my PM--private message--A Power Buy from an individual ?? We love you Albert!!I would guess by the time this is over you'll need 2 bottles of asprin--huh? |
put me down for 6 duplex outlets...these are 30amp I assume?
Thank you very much, this is a lot of work for you...very generous.
Charles |
Hello Albert,
Put me in for one. Thanks. |
Albertporter, you may have stumbled onto a way we can all get audio gear new for near dealer cost. If we could form some sort of Audiophile Consumer's Group we may be able to levelrage really good prices on new gear.
Just a thought.
KF |
Albert,
I Would like to order two Hubble duplexes please. do i send the money to you?
Regards,
Manny
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Albert,
You're a very generous man. Put me down for a total of three. Grandpoobah, thanks for the post.
Patrick |
I would like to purchase two. How do we arrange for payment / shipment? |
Hello, put me down for 3. Thanks |
Albert,
I would like to purchase 4. Thanks for doing this. Let me know about payment arrangements. |
Albert, Greetings.
I would like to purchase two.
Thanks,
Steelhead |
Albert, I thought you were a Wattagate fan? What applications are you using the Hubbels for? What are you using the Wattagate's for?
In any event, put me in for one, thanks! |
Gimme 2! Thanks Albert. I am trying very hard not to insert some bad pun unto this post. |
Everyone who has responded with a quantity on this post or by email, totals 40.
I think this is going to work. I will contact the supply house tomorrow and verify stock.
Any other interested members, please verify how many you need via email, and don't forget an address that is good for FedEx ground, which I will probably use. |
I would be eager to take you up on your most generous offer. Two Hubbell duplexes would be great. Will the money be sent to you, Albert, or is someone else doing the bookkeeping?
Regards, Jon |
I would like 1.Thank you,Albert. |